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Looking for a good Honda Motorcycle dealer
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Caddywumpus
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Cycle stop honda... Dunno if they survived the rona... Everyone in there pre shut down was a blue hair
Cycle stop honda... Dunno if they survived the rona... Everyone in there pre shut down was a blue hair
superhypered
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- 2015 CB1000R
2006 CBR600RR
2003 450 MXC
1985 XR350
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- Tommy
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I just read through your whole post, and I gotta say, you put way too much energy into this.
Yeah, yeah, I already know what you said, more time than money, but you would be willing to travel hundreds or thousands of miles just to get the best deal? Seriously?
Sometimes things go wrong with a bike and you might need to bring it back to get checked out to ensure no further issues. Would you be willing to make that long journey again? And if you need to leave the bike there, would you be willing to make that trip once again? I see you live in Sacramento so Gridley Honda wasn't "far" for you, however you very well could have gone even farther, and this is the point I'm trying to make to other prospective buyers reading this.
I understand everyone wants to save money and get the best deal, but these shops are a business to produce profits. If they do not produce profits, they shut down, then we're all locked in to travel farther for everything. At least at the shop I worked at, everything was MSRP, the standard freight charged by the manufacturer, the shop setup charge varied by vehicle, and then DMV fees. Everything else came out of manufacturer rebates or/and cuts to the MSRP. And never did we mark anything up while I was there at least, not even the Honda CBR1000RR SP2, not even the Ducati Panigale 1299 R Tricolore Final Edition, and not even the Ducati 1299 Superleggera.
That was also why I was instructed to provide, if it was requested for an out-the-door price, for our BEST PRICE mind you, only MSRP plus fees. If you came to the showroom, ready to purchase with whatever method of payment, or if you were already approved for financing, my boss was much easier to work with and we could make a deal happen, if it made sense. But you would take my very first starting number, email the next dealer and tell them what number you got from me, and of course their response will be "Yeah we can beat it! Bring it in we'll help you out!". Had I given you a couple bucks off from the get go, the competing dealer would still tell you the same thing just to steal a deal.
The reality is that most of these brands, specifically the Japanese brands, have barely any margin in them, if at all. Believe it or not, but the Ducati Scrambler's MSRP was less than the cost of the bike. It may have been true of only the first and second year models which were produced in Italy, but then they were produced in Thailand. During the winter months I was essentially a minimum wage worker with way too much stress.
If you made it this far, I present to you some of my notable achievements to reinforce my opinion on the matter, but I was part of the #1 sales team for Ducati sales in the summer of 2017, I secured a deal with Greg Glassman through his colleague for a six bike sale, only had multiple 5-star reviews on Yelp, and I once "stole" a deal from Carlin Dunne (RIP), although that last one was a customer in our area already, but I did save him a trip to Socal because we made the effort and helped him out.
Yeah, yeah, I already know what you said, more time than money, but you would be willing to travel hundreds or thousands of miles just to get the best deal? Seriously?
Sometimes things go wrong with a bike and you might need to bring it back to get checked out to ensure no further issues. Would you be willing to make that long journey again? And if you need to leave the bike there, would you be willing to make that trip once again? I see you live in Sacramento so Gridley Honda wasn't "far" for you, however you very well could have gone even farther, and this is the point I'm trying to make to other prospective buyers reading this.
I understand everyone wants to save money and get the best deal, but these shops are a business to produce profits. If they do not produce profits, they shut down, then we're all locked in to travel farther for everything. At least at the shop I worked at, everything was MSRP, the standard freight charged by the manufacturer, the shop setup charge varied by vehicle, and then DMV fees. Everything else came out of manufacturer rebates or/and cuts to the MSRP. And never did we mark anything up while I was there at least, not even the Honda CBR1000RR SP2, not even the Ducati Panigale 1299 R Tricolore Final Edition, and not even the Ducati 1299 Superleggera.
That was also why I was instructed to provide, if it was requested for an out-the-door price, for our BEST PRICE mind you, only MSRP plus fees. If you came to the showroom, ready to purchase with whatever method of payment, or if you were already approved for financing, my boss was much easier to work with and we could make a deal happen, if it made sense. But you would take my very first starting number, email the next dealer and tell them what number you got from me, and of course their response will be "Yeah we can beat it! Bring it in we'll help you out!". Had I given you a couple bucks off from the get go, the competing dealer would still tell you the same thing just to steal a deal.
The reality is that most of these brands, specifically the Japanese brands, have barely any margin in them, if at all. Believe it or not, but the Ducati Scrambler's MSRP was less than the cost of the bike. It may have been true of only the first and second year models which were produced in Italy, but then they were produced in Thailand. During the winter months I was essentially a minimum wage worker with way too much stress.
If you made it this far, I present to you some of my notable achievements to reinforce my opinion on the matter, but I was part of the #1 sales team for Ducati sales in the summer of 2017, I secured a deal with Greg Glassman through his colleague for a six bike sale, only had multiple 5-star reviews on Yelp, and I once "stole" a deal from Carlin Dunne (RIP), although that last one was a customer in our area already, but I did save him a trip to Socal because we made the effort and helped him out.
InsuranceGuy
Member
My first response was going to be talk to me when your income surpasses 7 figures a year. Or explain to me how to run a multimillion-dollar International Business or just a local multimillion dollar business. Because I have had the pleasure to have had 4 successful businesses, but that would be juvenile.
I know what it takes to be in and stay in business.
I really don’t like blanketed statements on how I purchase vehicles.
I’ve lost count how many cars and motorcycles I’ve purchased over the years but I’m sure it’s over a 100. I currently have 6 cars and 10 motorcycles and will be adding another truck (1 ton Ram limited) and 4 more motorcycles (450RL, AT, Desert sled and a Yamaha XSR900. Now to your comments
Once you retire you will find that you have nothing but time and energy, so you have to find ways to enjoy your time. Having been
A multi-business owner it takes a while to settle down. So focusing On getting a good deal (salesman to salesman) is interesting and fun.
Having been in business for so many years, I have friends all over the World. So it gives me an excuse to visit them and the cost savings usually pays for the trip. For example, I flew to New York to save 25% On a Rolex watch which paid for the trip.
As far as things going wrong, I buy new so the warranty is good in all 50 states. The reason I purchase from Gridley is because they offered a good Fair deal upfront. No bull, No I have to ask, no you have to come in All the typical salesman BS. They emailed me a price that was fair I called them closed the deal and they had a check from my bank the next day. I would buy from them again but the next 450RL they will have will be June.
Like I said before, I’ve purchased many vehicles over the years and I’m very familiar with the incentive’s dealers get. You assume Gridley Honda had the best price, they did not, they just had the best price local and they were straight forward in their dealings.
Your experience as a salesman is very limited and depended on another (sales manager or owner) and primarily dealing with the
general public. I have the contacts and the knowledge to bypass both. I choose to deal with a salesman to give him the chance to make some money. I give a dealership a fair chance to offer a good price. If I see excessive Fees or stupid costs for setup or ADM, I give them the opportunity to Correct it. If not, I move to the next dealer.
My posting was more on how dealers treat people and not 100% on cost, although cost did play a factor. There was a $2300 difference between the highest and lowest quote. I paid about $600. more than the lowest quote because they were straight forward with pricing and closer to home. Your own posting stated you were worried about price shopping and was instructed to give out a standard price. You also mention about people coming in to deal or get a better price with competitors quotes. I don’t deal that way, I have not been in a dealership other than to sign paperwork in over 20 years, because the deal was made before I arrive. I stand by what I wrote and will update my new adventure as it unfolds.
I know what it takes to be in and stay in business.
I really don’t like blanketed statements on how I purchase vehicles.
I’ve lost count how many cars and motorcycles I’ve purchased over the years but I’m sure it’s over a 100. I currently have 6 cars and 10 motorcycles and will be adding another truck (1 ton Ram limited) and 4 more motorcycles (450RL, AT, Desert sled and a Yamaha XSR900. Now to your comments
Once you retire you will find that you have nothing but time and energy, so you have to find ways to enjoy your time. Having been
A multi-business owner it takes a while to settle down. So focusing On getting a good deal (salesman to salesman) is interesting and fun.
Having been in business for so many years, I have friends all over the World. So it gives me an excuse to visit them and the cost savings usually pays for the trip. For example, I flew to New York to save 25% On a Rolex watch which paid for the trip.
As far as things going wrong, I buy new so the warranty is good in all 50 states. The reason I purchase from Gridley is because they offered a good Fair deal upfront. No bull, No I have to ask, no you have to come in All the typical salesman BS. They emailed me a price that was fair I called them closed the deal and they had a check from my bank the next day. I would buy from them again but the next 450RL they will have will be June.
Like I said before, I’ve purchased many vehicles over the years and I’m very familiar with the incentive’s dealers get. You assume Gridley Honda had the best price, they did not, they just had the best price local and they were straight forward in their dealings.
Your experience as a salesman is very limited and depended on another (sales manager or owner) and primarily dealing with the
general public. I have the contacts and the knowledge to bypass both. I choose to deal with a salesman to give him the chance to make some money. I give a dealership a fair chance to offer a good price. If I see excessive Fees or stupid costs for setup or ADM, I give them the opportunity to Correct it. If not, I move to the next dealer.
My posting was more on how dealers treat people and not 100% on cost, although cost did play a factor. There was a $2300 difference between the highest and lowest quote. I paid about $600. more than the lowest quote because they were straight forward with pricing and closer to home. Your own posting stated you were worried about price shopping and was instructed to give out a standard price. You also mention about people coming in to deal or get a better price with competitors quotes. I don’t deal that way, I have not been in a dealership other than to sign paperwork in over 20 years, because the deal was made before I arrive. I stand by what I wrote and will update my new adventure as it unfolds.
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InsuranceGuy
Member
Thank you, I will give them a call
ScottRNelson
Adventure and Dual Sport
I didn't dig back through this thread to see what else has been mentioned.
How about Nor-Call Motorsports in south Sacramento? At least they're in the Sacramento area. https://www.norcal-motorsports.com/ They had just taken on Honda last time I used them for my KTM in 2014 or 2015. They were a good dealership overall.
How about Nor-Call Motorsports in south Sacramento? At least they're in the Sacramento area. https://www.norcal-motorsports.com/ They had just taken on Honda last time I used them for my KTM in 2014 or 2015. They were a good dealership overall.
I bought a 2020 Africa Twin from Gilroy Motorcycle Center and also had my first service done there. They did match a quote I had from a dealer in SoCal, all interactions were pleasant. Would buy from them again.
gixxerjeff
Optimistic Underdog
I'm just curious why Mach 1 in Vallejo wasn't included in your search.
Like I said, just curious.
Every interaction I have ever had with them has been positive.
Like I said, just curious.
Every interaction I have ever had with them has been positive.
InsuranceGuy
Member
They are out of stock until May
InsuranceGuy
Member
They quoted me about $1000. more than what I paid for the 2020
InsuranceGuy
Member
Out of stock and did not know when he was going to get more.
R3DS!X
Whatever that means
- Joined
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Honda 919
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Royal Enfield INT 650
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also keep in mind the dealers do need to make some profit in order to stay afloat. I'm not saying give them all your money but they do need some of it.
InsuranceGuy
Member
Ding Ding Ding
Picked it up today.
Very straight forward, gave his best price upfront.
Paid about $500 more than I did for the 2020
I really can’t compare the dealers because they just did not have the stock.
Everything was coming in late April or May. Very hard to negotiate on an item they don’t have and them knowing you want it. I decided to have a bird in hand and pay a few dollars more. The few that did have the bike added a large ADM.
Thanks to everyone who made a suggestion.
gixxerjeff
Optimistic Underdog
Besides, not many people could hustle a BMW around the track at the pace Brian was doing a few years back. Impressive stuff from him.
