New CBR1000RR specs and info

[winders]

Everone keep bitchin 'bout the weight (of the 600RR), when an easy 20 lbs will be jettisoned w/the exhaust---granted other bikes will save weight via race exhaust--but the delat in typically much larger on the Hondas due to strict adherence with CA emissions

Are you saying that only Honda adheres to the CA emissions regulations?

The CBR600RR is a very heavy 600. In race trim, the 600RR is 20 lbs heavier than the R6 or the ZX-6RR. That's a lot of extra weight to carry around the track.

The CBR1000RR looks to be quite a bit heavier than the new R1, the GSX-R1000, and the new ZX-10. So Honda shows no innovation here.

Scott

 

[ST]

The CBR600RR is a very heavy 600. In race trim, the 600RR is 20 lbs heavier than the R6 or the ZX-6RR. That's a lot of extra weight to carry around the track.

The CBR1000RR looks to be quite a bit heavier than the new R1, the GSX-R1000, and the new ZX-10. So Honda shows no innovation here.

Scott

Scott - Although the mini-RR is a bit heavier than others in race trim, it still has won at several venues on the AMA circuits, especially the faster ones. I suspect once the freshman year bugs are worked out, they'll have even more success....and as far as the big-RR is concerned, if specifications were all based on "looks", we'd all be going out with supermodels...now in terms of money spent, no doubt about it, honduh as a corporation has vastly superior resources and monetary amounts to compete with. i, as a customer, can appreciate that, as much as i can appreciate a toyota car over say a competiting huyndai...but as they say in racing, once the flag drops, the bullshit stops...of course, my words, just like yours, is just pure speculation...


TH - me thinks someone has a deposit down on the big-RR already!

 

[Hooli]

Yeah whatever dude-----this bike is waaaay bitchin----looks like the R1 has jlos hooters surgeorically attached to the ass end...whats up w/the Mr Potatoe head rear end----dude???The HUGE radiator seems to indicate a rather curious surprise in the HP department.....the Tokiko brakes are an interesting twist---lets hope they work alot better than the susuckies-----and the best-----looks like the Ohlins is gonna fit ------hehehehe

Can we finally expected to see yer old azz on one next year, then?

 

[97rr]

This indicator light also features three distinct selectable blinking patterns
(ON, slow, or fast flashing) and three brightness levels for easier recognition
Likewise, as a sign of the new Fireblade’s high-performance intent, its tachometer
dial also features a new redline zone, which was extended upward 2,000rpms, from
11,500 to 13,500rpm.

What is the redline of the RR. I looked at the photos and the tach seems to redline at 11500, but the specs say 13500.

WTF????????

 

[Trackho]

What is the redline of the RR. I looked at the photos and the tach seems to redline at 11500, but the specs say 13500.

WTF????????

The redline and the rev-limiter are two different things, the 929 hits the limiter at 12.3K

 

[Dar25]

What is the redline of the RR. I looked at the photos and the tach seems to redline at 11500, but the specs say 13500.

WTF????????

Hmm you're right, the pic on cbrworld clearly shows 11.5 redline but the text below mentions 13.5 redline... Hmmm... I guess we'll wait and see...

EDIT: LOL good point TH, i could have sworn they meant redline itself (ie beginning). I think its a word trickery though because neither 929 or 954 did not hit the limiter at 11.5, So what exactly did they extend by 2k????

 

[Trackho]

Trackho,

Please. Don't be such a cheerleader.

The CBR1000RR will be a nice bike. But try being realistic about it, okay?

Scott

Damn dude, excuuuuse me fer gettin excited....at least I was kind and didnt bring up Kawi's dismal pro racing record....cross the board....however, I would love to see EBOZ kick ass on a more competitive bike........seems to me that Hondas sucess in pro-racing has led to some very interesting innovations..whereas Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawi have fallen flat on their face in the more innovative motoGP class....Honda has alot of money cuz they are good at what they do.....good for them/me..I have been waiting a long time to see BBoz, Roberts and Duhammel on a much more competitive platform than the RC51(this year)....regarding amatuer racing, seems that Honda has finally put a decent bike "in the hunt"---lack of contingency $$$ seems to be the next hurdle to overcome---

 

[winders]

Damn dude, excuuuuse me fer gettin excited....at least I was kind and didnt bring up Kawi's dismal pro racing record....cross the board....

You sure can dish it out to people....but you can't take it, that's for sure.

Here we are talking Honda's and you feel the need to go attack Kawasaki because I happen to own one. I am not brand loyal so picking on Kawasaki is no skin off my nose.

Poor Trackho.....

Scott

 

[Trackho]

You sure can dish it out to people....but you can't take it, that's for sure.

Here we are talking Honda's and you feel the need to go attack Kawasaki because I happen to own one. I am not brand loyal so picking on Kawasaki is no skin off my nose.

Poor Trackho.....

Scott

Whatever dude, I can take it just fine, the term facetious (spelling) comes to mind...you may have "attack" confused with fact...believe it or not the kawis aint suckin cuz you own one...they are separate events....didnt you own an R1??? From the "poignant" nature of your response---sure looks like someone got their feelers hurt to me.

More to the point...All this bantering about the Honda weighing 20 more lbs than the R6---are we sure that the average R6 rider doesnt just weight 20lbs less, with the exception of Duhammel, the Yamaha team is noticably smaller/lighter than BBOZ, Roberts, and Zemke. Often folks equate 1 HP for each aditional 7 lbs---now when you look at the dyno graphs, seems that is just about the delta 3HP between the Yamaha and the Honda, if you believe physics and moment of inertia means anything, the mass centralization should have a more noticable effect in turning-in, but is also altered greatly by rider weight/mass----sos the big deal in weight would be more attributable to braking distances...which seems consistant with the AMA results of the RR to date....at least Honda gives us something to think about, as opposed to why are all the green bikes always last

 

[ST]

Another nice pic:

 

[ST]

Another pic:

 

[Raghu]

You sure can dish it out to people....but you can't take it, that's for sure.

Here we are talking Honda's and you feel the need to go attack Kawasaki because I happen to own one. I am not brand loyal so picking on Kawasaki is no skin off my nose.

Poor Trackho.....

Scott

I don't see anything wrong or any attempt to divert the topic @ hand...you were comparing the overweight Honda to the lightweight ZX-6RR.

The CBR600RR is a very heavy 600. In race trim, the 600RR is 20 lbs heavier than the R6 or the ZX-6RR. That's a lot of extra weight to carry around the track.

If the Yamahas can kick the 600RR's ass because they are lightweight, the more techologically advanced (USD, Radial brakes, slipper clutch)and light-weight zx-6rr should - no? Why is it last?

I think you are being defensive...

 

[Mr.Pink]

Thought I'd throw in a pic of the '03 954 for comparison. I think the 1kRR is a kewl bike. "oh no! less hp, it is junk!"

 

[Hamburger Legs]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Winders and Trackho, you guys crack me up! Sound like a couple of homo's bickering over who likes the latest Streisand album more. "My bike is better..... no, MY bike is better". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

I'm stickin around for this thread.
popcorn=procured

-John

 

[Trackho]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Winders and Trackho, you guys crack me up! Sound like a couple of homo's bickering over who likes the latest Streisand album more. "My bike is better..... no, MY bike is better". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

I'm stickin around for this thread.
popcorn=procured

-John

Dont you have something to go loop???

 

[Nucking Futs]

All this banter about this honda is really quite pointless. You don't really know what it looks like till your standing next to it, and as far as performance goes you don't really know till you ride it. All the hype about how it will perform as a racebike is moot. The bullshit stops when the green flag drops, and looking at the point standings at a national level and at club levels will tell you exactly which bikes make better racebikes. In AMA there is no doubt suzuki is the fastest in superbike, and yamaha fastest in supersport. (Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Tony Meiring a novice supersport rider riding a first year Kawasaki? And he's seventh in points) At the club level in AFM it's all suzuki 1000's and even in formula pacific I think the fastest 600 is the new 636.
Arguing about who's going to be fastest doesn't make sense. And BTW all the new bikes are ugly, not just this honda.

 

[ScorpioVI]

Dont you have something to go loop???

 

[Agent Orange]

haha thats a great pic

 

[Alexey]

This is a funny ass thread. Winders and Trackhoe need to calm down and wait till they can test the damn things. Correct me I'm wrong, but with enough cash and testing time, you can turn any modern platform into a good race bike. It's only now that AMA and FIM superbike rules are kind of starting to come into their own and they're getting more stable, that the factories are willing to roll out bikes they are not afraid to develop in those series. Now you got your ram air (Yam), you got your sorted out fuel injection, you got your stiff chassis (Hon), you got a full size bike (Kaw), etc. Basically all you had to work with until now were either road bikes not meant for superbike, overdeveloped twins or bored out ZX 7's. They were all band-aids so the factories could wait out the unstable rules. Now they're more serious. Now you can go and dump your cash into any of them, remove all the gimmicks and put your Ohlins stuff. What I'd really be excited to see is some affordable race kits. I think Kawi's 600RR was a step in the right direction with it. And HRC had some good kits available for the RC51.

 

[MRGIXXER]

lets not forget honda will also have ben and miguel on this bike vs who mladin and yates? yawn!

bbos and miguel!!

Shit, we are not gonna start on the Mladin and Yates VS others again are we? Everyone will have a year down on Suzuki next year....we'll see how everything pans out.