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Official 2018/2019 Sharks Thread!

Game 7 summary in 1 pic from the tank:

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Man what a game.

1. it was a bullshit call. It was called so long after the play and the refs said they didn't see it. IF it was called then and there immediately I would not be so upset about it. I think a major should not have been called, BUT shitty calls happen and I think a notable one was called earlier in the series against the Sharks, That is the way the cookie crumbles

2. Knights are the ones that fell apart after that, they have to own the fact they gave up 4 goals. It was theirs to lose

3, hope Pav is ok, the check really was not malicious in anyway. Also curious how his head was cut like that underneath the helmet, wonder if the faceguard broke or something?

Good luck against the Avs, I would normally root for the Sharks, but he Avs are my 3rd fav team (the blues are second)


Here is to the Sharks delaying choking until further down the road ;)
 
Tough call for sure, but
- it was a cross check for sure, right off the faceoff, just stood up and smashed him, face to face. Stupid move.
- the cross-check just knocked Pavs off balance and into the other Knight player, who was likely unaware of the cross-check and just saw a body coming towards him and pushed him down and away. Unfortunately, that was what really did Pavs in, but that was a harder call to make for the refs, it could possibly have been roughing, but really hard to believe he had intent or was even aware he was sending Pavs head first to the ice.
- fairly viscous cross-check + motionless player on the ice + head blood on the ice = safe to say, could be a major.

Refs let a LOT of stuff go for both teams the last couple of games, a line has to be somewhere or players will get really hurt. Pavs got really hurt, there had to be repurcussions.
 
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cross check at 3:00 ... :nchantr

what a comeback ... :party
 
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augustiron said:
Refs let a LOT of stuff go for both teams the last couple of games, a line has to be somewhere or players will get really hurt. Pavs got really hurt, there had to be repurcussions.
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This. The last few games were pretty rough and tumble and while I got some laughs out of some of it (Burns standing by the net just pummeling a guy with no action anywhere near them for a solid 10-20 seconds right in front of a ref who kept glancing over at them then looking away) that hit on Pavelski was worrisome. First the jaw and now this - mofo's taking some hits for the team in huge ways.
 
I will also add:
Sure, they were man up, but the 4 goals were due to two things they didn't have in the first 2 periods:
1- they got the lucky bounces they didn't earlier - 1 goal fluttering through Fleury's armpit, another a great/lucky redirect
2- great screens in front of the net forcing Fleury to an off center position to see, and great (perfect?) shot placement taking advantage of the screen/displacement.
 
Also, for the Knights fans that wanna blame the refs, how about blowing chances called games 5 & 6 ?!?! People can say what they will, but the chances were there and they didn't take advantage. The Sharks did.

Welcome to heartbreak ridge. It stings, I know.

Now, onto The Avs. :party
 
regarding the call: the checker is always responsible for what happens to the player after he checks him. always. if a player checks his man 5 yards away from the boards, propelling him into the boards with his head, the checker is assessed a penalty appropriate to what happens to the player's head. if he's concussed, chances are, the checker will be given a major + misconduct. This is regardless of the intent of the player.

in this case, while the eakin may not have intended for pavs' legs to be taken out from under him by Stastny and go head-first into the ice, getting concussed and convulsing...it was the direct result of the cross-check that caused the injury. The checker has responsibility for what happens after the cross-check, regardless of intent. And that's how it was called.

I understand Gallant disagrees. I'm sure he didn't see one penalty his team committed all series. And most likely many of the Vegas fans didn't think it was a major. This is why I dislike whining about calls. Homers will always be homers (myself included).

In my homer opinion, it was the right call and I hope Eakin gets a lengthy suspension.

now...on to the Avs.
 
http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-59.php

According to the rules, it says nothing about the consequences after the contact. Just the severity of the actual contact.

Vegas can bitch all they want about the call. Giving up 4 goals in 5 minutes of PP is pretty sad. They had the game in hand. Even with that penalty, they had the game in hand.
 
does anyone else here get annoyed with how much the sharks puck handle and pass a million times before shooting? get the damn shot on goal and make a play. every freakin time its pass, pass, pass, pass, skate around, pass, bobble puck, take a off balanced shitty shot before they get the puck. PUT IT ON GOAL FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!
 
KWeezyXB12 said:
does anyone else here get annoyed with how much the sharks puck handle and pass a million times before shooting? get the damn shot on goal and make a play. every freakin time its pass, pass, pass, pass, skate around, pass, bobble puck, take a off balanced shitty shot before they get the puck. PUT IT ON GOAL FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!
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Yup, they were trying to be way too cute
 
Akira-R said:
http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-59.php

According to the rules, it says nothing about the consequences after the contact. Just the severity of the actual contact.
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correct...and up to the discretion based on the severity of contact. Clearly he wasn't given a major for his initial contact with pavs, right? Therefore he was punished due to the severity of what happened after contact. This is not something invented for that game. It's pretty standard and is called often this way.

a cross-check is the initial infraction (stick off the ice). When the cross-check ends up with a player into the boards, it becomes boarding. Boarding has clear rules about the severity of the contact being defined as contact with the boards and not contact with the stick.

The severity of contact takes into account what happens after the initial cross-check, just like in the case of boarding.

example: Stamkos gets cross-checked in 2015. no biggie, may not even have been a minor in a playoff setting. But it's the fact that his head hits the crossbar is the reason the call is made. This is not new.

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KWeezyXB12 said:
does anyone else here get annoyed with how much the sharks puck handle and pass a million times before shooting? get the damn shot on goal and make a play. every freakin time its pass, pass, pass, pass, skate around, pass, bobble puck, take a off balanced shitty shot before they get the puck. PUT IT ON GOAL FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!
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Shooters shoot. Jumbo really needs to just keep saying it.
 
Bowling4Bikes said:
correct...and up to the discretion based on the severity of contact. Clearly he wasn't given a major for his initial contact with pavs, right? Therefore he was punished due to the severity of what happened after contact. This is not something invented for that game. It's pretty standard and is called often this way.

a cross-check is the initial infraction (stick off the ice). When the cross-check ends up with a player into the boards, it becomes boarding. Boarding has clear rules about the severity of the contact being defined as contact with the boards and not contact with the stick.

The severity of contact takes into account what happens after the initial cross-check, just like in the case of boarding.

example: Stamkos gets cross-checked in 2015. no biggie, may not even have been a minor in a playoff setting. But it's the fact that his head hits the crossbar is the reason the call is made. This is not new.

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Don't kill the messenger! I just posted up the actual written rules. And yes they are up for interpretation. I think that interpretation being as subjective as it is, is what players/fans hate.

Notice that there is nothing on "intent" on that rule also. I know that the announcers were trying to say there was no extra intent to harm, so it must've been the blood on the ice that justified the major. But would that also figure in to interpretation, even though intent isn't written in the rule? Refs got it tough sometimes.

I'm not complaining mind you, totally glad the sharks took advantage. I hope Pavs is ok as well.
 
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