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"Oriental" - is it derogatory?

Don't we need a half asian half German to answer these questions? I've met some in Germany. They speak English with a German accent.
 
Reli said:
They were riding on the skills of THEIR parents. Just like our kids and grandkids will be riding on the backs of the dot-com skills we had. Big deal. Times change, certain skills become obsolete or aren't needed as much anymore.
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You speak as if the Bay Area and whatever has happened here in the past ten years is the epicenter of all that matters. It's manifested in comments that trivialize contributions of prior generations and in your repeated use of terms like "flyover states," which implies that people who live in those places don't do anything that matters. The ignorance is kind of stunning.

You're right that certain skills become obsolete, but this is only possible because of the dependencies that came before. The so-called Greatest Generation made its share of mistakes too, but they struggled through the worst poverty the nation has ever known and gave us the greatest boost in prosperity it ever experienced.

From more recent generations, we get things like the Occupy movement.
 
tzrider said:
You speak as if the Bay Area and whatever has happened here in the past ten years is the epicenter of all that matters. It's manifested in comments that trivialize contributions of prior generations and in your repeated use of terms like "flyover states," which implies that people who live in those places don't do anything that matters. The ignorance is kind of stunning.

You're right that certain skills become obsolete, but this is only possible because of the dependencies that came before. The so-called Greatest Generation made its share of mistakes too, but they struggled through the worst poverty the nation has ever known and gave us the greatest boost in prosperity it ever experienced.

From more recent generations, we get things like the Occupy movement.
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Ehh, the end of WWII left the entire world economy devastated and the American economy healthy. That lasted about twenty five years. By 1973 things started to turn. It's nice to ascribe prosperity to the efforts of one generation, but it's not what happened. They weren't better, smarter or even different than those today.

2 billion people every year in the world struggle through dire poverty, far worse than that of the depression era, which was pretty bad.
 
Sorry, but the greatest generation fought and won the Civil War.

And I agree the Russkies won WWII.
 
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tzrider said:
You speak as if the Bay Area and whatever has happened here in the past ten years is the epicenter of all that matters. It's manifested in comments that trivialize contributions of prior generations and in your repeated use of terms like "flyover states," which implies that people who live in those places don't do anything that matters. The ignorance is kind of stunning.

You're right that certain skills become obsolete, but this is only possible because of the dependencies that came before. The so-called Greatest Generation made its share of mistakes too, but they struggled through the worst poverty the nation has ever known and gave us the greatest boost in prosperity it ever experienced. .
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My original post about the Greatest Generation was intended to rebut this post here:

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Bullshit. The Greatest Generation did not conquer the known fucking world by being supportive of each other and being full of hugs. All my granddads folks on both sides (blue collar guys in San Franciso and NYC, pretty diverse groups) fuckin' buddy around by doing nothing, but talking shit and taunting each others race/ethnicity/culture/religion wahtever. They don't sit around and support each others fucking egos because real men would be ashamed to admit they ever even wanted that kind of support beyond the right to punch a guy in his eye for saying something too far. We have gotten shittier as a society ever since.
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I feel that post is a crock of shit. Saying they're more "real men" just because they use rough language. Saying they conquered the world...... well of course they did, they were called up to fight a war. If today's kids were called up they would do the same, as they did after 9/11.

And when I use terms like flyover country, it isn't to denigrate their accomplishments, it's to denigrate their cultural competency and their political beliefs. And I don't see why they should be off-limits to criticism, when they constantly criticize California as being queer, socialist, full of nutcases, etc.

tzrider said:
From more recent generations, we get things like the Occupy movement.
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Nice cherry-picking, the same thing you accuse me of doing.
 
afm199 said:
Ehh, the end of WWII left the entire world economy devastated and the American economy healthy. That lasted about twenty five years. By 1973 things started to turn. It's nice to ascribe prosperity to the efforts of one generation, but it's not what happened. They weren't better, smarter or even different than those today.
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My take on this is US-centric and the label of "Greatest Generation" is too. The US economy and technical advances were accelerating long before 1972 as you allude to yourself.

I agree that they weren't better (in most respects) but they weren't worse, either. My reply to reli is a reaction to the trivializing statement, "Therefore, people need to have a few more skills than just knowing how to shoot each other and telling the wife to stay in the kitchen."

afm199 said:
2 billion people every year in the world struggle through dire poverty, far worse than that of the depression era, which was pretty bad.
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They do, though you'd be hard pressed to come up with similar examples of bootstrapping themselves to relative prosperity.
 
Reli said:
I feel that post is a crock of shit. Saying they're more "real men" just because they use rough language. Saying they conquered the world...... well of course they did, they were called up to fight a war. If today's kids were called up they would do the same, as they did after 9/11.
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You sound like the kind of guy that thinks it is OK to have feelings too. :laughing Allow this instructional video to explain to you the proper way for people to interact with each other.

[youtube]VXD8yOxIPB0[/youtube]

I don't know why people seem so fixated on WWII when I mention the greatest generation though. While it is true, that War did shape that generation and the world, the Socio-Economic global cultural domination we manifested in the few years prior and decades after the war is a far greater accomplishment.
 
Eldritch said:
I don't know why people seem so fixated on WWII when I mention the greatest generation though. While it is true, that War did shape that generation and the world, the Socio-Economic global cultural domination we manifested in the few years prior and decades after the war is a far greater accomplishment.
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I often think of the Greatest Gen coming home from War, and, while eschewing socialism and communism per se, receiving benefit from the very socialist GI Bill to build the economy, society and infrastructure that is so celebrated as the good old days.
 
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Bay Arean said:
I often think of the Greatest Gen coming home from War, and, while eschewing socialism and communism per se, receiving benefit from the very socialist GI Bill to build the economy, society and infrastructure that is so celebrated as the good old days.
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I think you have a poor understanding of the greatest generation. They were all, "New Deal," kids of FDR, which is the the esence of all Socialist Movements in America. These were children of the American Labor Movement, before labor moved into the public sector and became a corrupt theft of the American Dream. Without FDR's new deal, the greatest generation would never have allowed LBJ's Great Society stuff (Medicare, Medicaid). That was all the accomplishment of the greatest generation, who was violently anti-communist to the point of a great deal of McCarthyism.

Statements like that concern me that you are ignorant of the unadulterated evil of Communism.
 
Eldritch said:
Allow this instructional video to explain to you the proper way for people to interact with each other.

[youtube]VXD8yOxIPB0[/youtube]
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That was a great movie all the way up until he posed like Jebus when he died on the lawn. I threw up a little at that point. Bear in mind this is coming from a person who worships at the alter of Clint.
 
CocoLoco said:
That was a great movie all the way up until he posed like Jebus when he died on the lawn. I threw up a little at that point. Bear in mind this is coming from a person who worships at the alter of Clint.
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Meh, I was able to forgive it.
 
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