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PG&E TOU Plans

The idea would be to use the energy that you produce rather than letting PG&E have it then paying 4 times as much to use it later in the day. If I lower my house temp further than I would in an equitable manner, then I have a surplus of coolness in my house to get through the night with much less demand on AC system when they give me back my energy at a 1:4 exchange rate.

Currently, the AC periodically kicks on throughout the night, it's often over 90 degrees down here at 10:00 pm when our solar arrays are not producing any electricity.
 
Ah, I see now.

My doorstep to yours is about 25min or so via r1200gs and it gets down to mid to high 60’s at night. We crack bedroom windows with the ac at 75 and it quits cycling at about 1am or so.:thumbup
 
I lived up in Oakhurst in the early 90's, it would get hot up there but cooled down nicely at night. Then we had the snowline just outside of town for seeing the snow with a short drive during the winter. :laughing

Elevation definitely helps at night, but it comes with the added risk of fires.
 
Small world.

I was in YLP 79-83. Riding a yz80 to the bus stop and throwing it against a fence until school let out is just surreal considering today’s challenges.

Just rode by the Snowline last week. Snowline in name only nowadays.
 
But they're moving to having solar adopters pay 85% of what everyone else pays, at a rate after their recouping and profit increases for everyone...
 
Ran into my neighbor (same house, same size roof etc, similar solar setup) and he has confirmed no battery is needed. His rate per month is close enough to free. And he drives a Tesla X!
 
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The city inspector passed my Solar install today :) Was actually quite a nice guy. I figured for sure he'd find something wrong.













 
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LA fox news @ 11pm last nite.
Another shot across the bow of basic ratepayers?

Only caught a bit of this, it seems that a startup company wants to market smart thermostats. "To stop power outages"

This triggered my knowledge of smart power meters that some already have, that will cause local brownouts for high load service demands.

My take, another layer of some bureaucracy managing power by manipulating your thermostat, to avoid brownouts?
NO AC for You!!!! or just another path for hackers to gain control?

I hope I got this wrong, or only in Edison's service area in So-Cal.
 
LA fox news @ 11pm last nite.
Another shot across the bow of basic ratepayers?

Only caught a bit of this, it seems that a startup company wants to market smart thermostats. "To stop power outages"

This triggered my knowledge of smart power meters that some already have, that will cause local brownouts for high load service demands.

My take, another layer of some bureaucracy managing power by manipulating your thermostat, to avoid brownouts?
NO AC for You!!!! or just another path for hackers to gain control?

I hope I got this wrong, or only in Edison's service area in So-Cal.

These are a good thing, and are the future. They just scale back AC during peak load times. I’m not sure the details, but even a one degree change across thousands of homes would have a huge effect
 
LA fox news @ 11pm last nite.
Another shot across the bow of basic ratepayers?

Only caught a bit of this, it seems that a startup company wants to market smart thermostats. "To stop power outages"

This triggered my knowledge of smart power meters that some already have, that will cause local brownouts for high load service demands.

My take, another layer of some bureaucracy managing power by manipulating your thermostat, to avoid brownouts?
NO AC for You!!!! or just another path for hackers to gain control?

I hope I got this wrong, or only in Edison's service area in So-Cal.

Sounds like the same Idea as Ohm Connect, a demand management program.

With Ohm Connect, they will give you a Nest Thermostats or two smart plugs is you use them in their program.

Basically, Ohm connect will turn you AC from getting too cold when demand is really high. You an opt out of a event if you want. They pay you for the power that you saved. So its a win - win and its a fun game.

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RE: Approval to turn on your Solar System Account No. xxxxxx(Reference# xxxxx)

Dear JORDAN :

Congratulations on investing in a renewable energy system and joining PG&E’s Net Energy Metering (NEM) Program. We want to continue to partner with you to control your energy costs and provide you the resources needed to help protect the environment.

Your new solar system located at xxxxx, SAN FRANCISCO, CA has permission to operate as of 07/31/2021. Although your PG&E meter is now recording the credits for your system, your first NEM bill may take up to thirty (30) business days before it is sent to you. Please turn on your system to start participating in our NEM Program. In most cases, your installer will help you turn on your system.

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It's been on this entire time generating power which I guess I got no credit for :)

Also got the tracking setup

 
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