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Pipes

corndog67

corndog67

Pissant Squid
Joined
Jan 2, 2011
Location
Santa Maria, CA
Moto(s)
KTM 950 SM Weapon
Name
Robert
So, I'm about to spring for some pipes for my KTM 950SM. So far, 2 places have refused to sell me a set of slipons. Apparently, CA will fine them, me, and whoever puts it on, as the story goes. So I asked them, why not say it's for a race bike? One guy said he would if I showed him a green sticker.


These guys don't want to make any money or what? What the fuck, I'll put it on myself, I'm not someone to snitch off anyone if I decide to put a non-stock pipe on. I guess I could order one from Ebay, overseas, but I'm real reluctant to order anything outside of the US.

What's the real scoop?

Also, I am trying to steer some business to the locals.
 
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Can't you just order on-line and install yourself? And why would it have to be ordered from overseas? Aren't there any companies selling the pipes you want here in the states?
 
Nevada is looking better and better everyday.
 
Well, the guys I talked to have told me out of state dealers won't ship pipes to Ca, but I haven't verified this myself. But as I said, I'm trying to keep it local.

As a next step, I'll try out of state.
 
That's really odd. They can fined for selling race pipes to street bikes and what not but not for doing an approved pipe. I know of a place in seaside that will happy to sell them to you and install should you so choose. Also have lots of experience with KTM's.

Catch- no it's just not normally enforced very much. Carb/epa whatever agency sent out a letter saying they would be enforcing and fining.
 
Seaside? I used to work for Dan, with Alex. Who is doing pipes and KTMs in Seaside?

As far as selling race pipes for street bikes, anything without the EPA tag is a race pipe correct? And aren't 90% or more of them, non-compliant? And that's what I want anyway.
 
Yes that would be correct to both questions. 831 Cycles does. They used to be Pinit Motorsports which was the local KTM dealer. Steve and Adam work in the back and both have a lot of experience with KTM's. Racing, selling, maintenance, everything really. Besides there's an RC8R in the window with a full Akro. No full system in compliant but some slip ons are. Akro's often are iirc. A lot of Yoshi's are as well.

I have no idea who's in Santa Maria or the surrounding area but it seem weird to think there's nobody that's willing.
 
you can thank our wonderful selves for us not being able to sell pipes in california anymore. the "loud pipes save lives" crowd is mostly responsible for the new ban on aftermarket pipes in california unless they comply with the new regulations and have the markings on the pipes to indicate that they do. it goes into effect in january and most dealers are just getting a jump on the issue. the new law applies to 2013 bikes and forward but most places are just doing the cya thing to avoid any issues. if you dont like it complain to your state rep about it since they seem to be the ones that can really do anything about it.
 
Steve Polk. Ran Pinit Motorpsorts merged with 831 Cycles. Still does a lot of work on KTM's and a lot of race motors and other things.
 
originalsturge said:
you can thank our wonderful selves for us not being able to sell pipes in california anymore. the "loud pipes save lives" crowd is mostly responsible for the new ban on aftermarket pipes in california .
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:rolleyes

This is a CARB issue, not a noise issue.
 
Blame the state, dude. It's the politicians you all elected. :nchantr

As a shop owner, I have to now prove any non-EPA or non-CARB approved parts are going on bikes used for off road purposes only. That basically means if it comes in under its own power and has a license plate, I can be fined. The bike has to be trailered in and have no running gear for the street.
 
They prove how ignorant they are in their new regulations. They say you're not supposed to remove any oxygen sensors but they fail to address adding them to a bike. I just got done installing a full Yoshimura R55 exhaust on a customer's 2007 GSXR750 trackday bike (no, it wasn't ridden in) and added an O2 sensor to the system to improve it. The bike comes from Japan with no oxygen sensors on it. :nchantr
 
Another example- the 2011 ZX10R doesn't come with an oxygen sensor from Japan. The full Leo Vince exhaust :)drool) I installed for another trackday customer added one to the system. Here's the stock midpipe next to the Leo Vince one.
 

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originalsturge said:
you can thank our wonderful selves for us not being able to sell pipes in california anymore. the "loud pipes save lives" crowd is mostly responsible for the new ban on aftermarket pipes in california unless they comply with the new regulations and have the markings on the pipes to indicate that they do. it goes into effect in january and most dealers are just getting a jump on the issue. the new law applies to 2013 bikes and forward but most places are just doing the cya thing to avoid any issues. if you dont like it complain to your state rep about it since they seem to be the ones that can really do anything about it.
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Papi said:
:rolleyes

This is a CARB issue, not a noise issue.
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This is what I believe originalsturge was referring to:

http://sd23.senate.ca.gov/news/2010-08-30-senator-pavley-s-motorcycle-noise-bill-heads-governor-s-desk

It did pass, and it was not CARB-related.
 
So if the chain is removed before a modified bike is brought in for service, then it cannot "move under its own power" and will be law compliant?
 
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So if the chain is removed before a modified bike is brought in for service, then it cannot "move under its own power" and will be law compliant?
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The whole thing is complete bullshit because a track bike can be brought into a shop for work and the owner can sign releases and paperwork all day long. There is nothing preventing him from taking that bike home, installing the lights, mirrors and license plate and then riding it on the streets. If he gets caught, they will still want to know who did the work. Then the owner and the shop end up with a big hassle and possible fines. Who needs the aggravation.
 
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