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Problem with my Husky 610?

flying_hun said:
Okay, I'll go $200 AND I'll pick it up from you! You'll have to settle for paper money though......
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hey, get outta here!!!!!

stan i can come up with another $50-60 in various ROLLED change

nickels, dimes, even pennies!!

do you know how rare pennies are getting? you can probably make money just recycling them
 
Damn Stan. Sorry to hear that. I know the original owner and I don't know what to think.

Has he been cooperative or given any explanation or history of work done that could explain what happened? Does he have any receipts of service done or did he do all the work himself?

Sad to put all that money on a helluva nice 'tard, one of the best imo, and then have this happen.
 
antibling said:
hey, get outta here!!!!!

stan i can come up with another $50-60 in various ROLLED change

nickels, dimes, even pennies!!

do you know how rare pennies are getting? you can probably make money just recycling them
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Hey, I can throw in some old copper pipe! Yeah, that's the ticket! And some left over copper crush washers from doing oil changes.

BIDDING WAR!!!!!!
 
hey man, I'll be driving from Morgan Hill at about 11:30 tomorrow morning....if you can meet me somewhere near the freeway, before 680, I'll lend you a compression tester.....

hopefully it is something simple....
 
silverbelt said:
Damn Stan. Sorry to hear that. I know the original owner and I don't know what to think.

Has he been cooperative or given any explanation or history of work done that could explain what happened? Does he have any receipts of service done or did he do all the work himself?

Sad to put all that money on a helluva nice 'tard, one of the best imo, and then have this happen.
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Thanks everyone for the kind words and laughter.. Definitely has made me feel better.

I've been in contact with the original owner, and he's been nothing but awesome as far as answering my many questions. He did all the work himself, and he was really meticulous when I went to go pick up the bike. Who knew something like this would have happened? The gouge marks on the head were suspect, but he swears that he has never noticed it. He checked the valves every 1K, so he would have gone in there 9 times. I know for a fact, I didn't do it. so those marks just seem to come out of nowhere.. Still a mystery.

I've started threads on both TT, and SMJ. Peter (on all forums) has been extremely helpful in helping me diagnose the problems.

Tonight, i'll check the CCT, and drain the oil to look for any metallic bits.

Anything past this, i'll need professional help, and I can only imagine what this will cost..
 
flying_hun said:
Hey, I can throw in some old copper pipe! Yeah, that's the ticket! And some left over copper crush washers from doing oil changes.

BIDDING WAR!!!!!!
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i have useless scrap carbon fiber parts. you will loose this war
 
antibling said:
i have useless scrap carbon fiber parts. you will loose this war
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Carpet fiber!? I got something WAY better! Boxes and boxes of old bicycle parts. Yeah, baby! We're talkin' worn out six speed freewheels, friction shifters, used saddles...... There's no way he can resist!

Seriously, I have myself overreacted with frustration before with stuff like this. Go slow. Check the simple stuff first. It's like Occam's razor; the simplest explanation that explains the events is the most likely.
 
I'm SSOOOOOOOOO glad, I didn't trade antibling for those roll of quaters and some carbon bits..

Cause, he just fixed my damn bike!

So Bryan comes over to loan me a compression gauge.. Pull the plug, and crap.. won't fit.

I asked if he had anything to do, and if not, he can help me pull the CCT?

He's game, and off we go...

pull, the radiator to get back to the valve covers, and pull the intake valve cover off. He points and laughs at me.

Seems one of the valve adjustment screw bolts had worked itself loose, and one intake valve was closed the whole time!

That would explain why the bike sputtered and ran until it died.

We re-adjusted all 4 valves and decided to start her up. With the radiator dangling and the gas tank not yet installed, we fire her up..

She barks and growls like we had just awaken an angry dog! Settles just fine into the idle, and I was jumping up and down!!

button everything back up, and took her out for a quick ride.

I came back and said there was a huge problem.. It's too fast!

Now the bike purrs like a kitten, but I have not done a 'real' ride yet, so i'll check back tomorrow.

Thanks Bryan.. I owe you beers for life!
 
Actually, I spoke too soon..

Went for a 'real' ride, and the bike was really boggy.. Felt like really sluggish and was surging.

At time when I would come to a stop, the bike would stall.

I changed the plug and the problem still exists.

Could improperly adjusted valves do this? We adjusted the intake and exhaust valves on different strokes.

Glad to hear the bike run, but I would rather have it run like it did before!
 
Man i almost spoke too soon. Could the valve adjustment nut be striped or any way the nut could be working itself loose. Out of curiosity.. are you setting the valves on the looser side or tighter side? Maybe its worth your time to pull the head and jug out and inspect it. No harm no foul! Keep us updated! best of luck.

ed
 
stan you don't owe me anything. well, maybe one beer.

the valves are definitely on the loose side now... but not as loose as they were. spec is .002" but i'm pretty sure they were all .005 or larger prior to last night. now i'd guess they are .003-.004. getting the feeler gages in place without hitting the casting, thus making it difficult to judge the actual gap, is difficult and my fingers are too big to get in there easily too. i would modfy the feelers if i had to do it again.

a nut backing off was the root cause of the "no-start" to begin with, the actuator screw also backed off. none of the threads are stripped, i tightened them down myself.

stan, sorry to hear it still has problems, maybe time for a real mechanic :D maybe we knocked an adjustment screw or two loose putting the bike back together? i still suspect the cam chain maybe skipped a tooth.
 
I hope you get it worked out, but this is the reason why I would never buy a used bike from anyone, no matter how clean it looked.

Unless the previous owner who does his own work is a certified mechanic, it doesn't mean jack to me. I would rather buy a bike from a person who took it to a shop for all work.
 
Dude!!

Where is ol' (throw it off a cliff and still ride home) reliable ? You took 2 steps back :wtf

I'd warn anyone away from exotic SMs. Fast as hell but they burn out fast too.

Sorry for your new troubles, and good luck.
 
2 steps forward, one step back, arrggggg :cry

Maybe it just might be time to swing it over to Rob and get his input. I'm really hoping it is something simple. You had me going there Stan, I was happy that the husky came back to life.

Best of luck Stan, I hope its just a minor inexpensive adjustment.
 
Adjusting on different strokes is ok, I've seen people do KTMs that way, basically adjust the intakes when the exhuasts are half open and vice versa, no issues w/ that.

The first time I adjusted my valves I did them too loose and it ran like crap. I re-adjusted them to where I could get the proper feeler in, but couldn't get the next larger feeler in. The other way to do it is to tighten the nut down until it stops, then turn back 1/6 turn (not sure what the thread pitch is on the Husky, so it might not be 1/6 like it is on the KTM, but just an example) since 1/6 turn is .05mm. Hope you get it all straightened out Stan, sucks to buy a new bike, riding it home just fine, then it breaks and you're stuck holding the bag.
 
Sane_Man said:
I hope you get it worked out, but this is the reason why I would never buy a used bike from anyone, no matter how clean it looked.

Unless the previous owner who does his own work is a certified mechanic, it doesn't mean jack to me. I would rather buy a bike from a person who took it to a shop for all work.
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I've probably purchased 16 used bikes in the past 4 years, and this is the first one that has ever given me any problems. I guess it's luck of the draw. Even with a new bike, you can get a lemon. I have no reservations on buying used again...
 
A new bike has a warrenty and/or recourse.

I didn't know if you were serious earlier, but there's no way I would write off a $6k purchase. I'd rather take the depreciation hit on a new bike, then the frustation of a lemon that takes extra time and money to resolve.
 
Sane_Man said:
A new bike has a warrenty and/or recourse.

I didn't know if you were serious earlier, but there's no way I would write off a $6k purchase. I'd rather take the depreciation hit on a new bike, then the frustation of a lemon that takes extra time and money to resolve.
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I think you and I are very different, and that's ok. I take gamble's on used bikes because there are some true gems out there.

I can afford a new bike, but I never wanted one, cause it's just too pretty.. I'll be too much in awe, and may not ride it like it is meant to be ridden, cause i'll be too scared to crash it! lol

6K for a used bike is pretty much the limit that I would spend.

Obviously, i'm no fool when it comes to buying used bikes. I'm actually pretty cautious and meticulous. I've turned away smoking deals because something inside me said no.

So far, this formula has worked..

Anything mechanical, can breakdown and for no reason and without warning... That's a fact of life and I can accept it.

Sure it sucks that I only got to ride it for less than 100 miles (just checked the ODO, it's 80 miles)

But all I can do now is move forward -- If anything is gained, I learned quite a bit more about wrenching, and have gotten quite intimate with my husky by taking it apart many times. :cool
 
^^^
i just looked a the website. they'd work well on the exhaust side. on intake there is wiring, the frame, and probably something else in the way. it's a good start though, good tip
 
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