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Question regarding weaving to warm your tires

Ryangsxr600 said:
Friction creates heat, and tires warm once you begin riding. The few pro races I've seen, when the riders get up and take tire warmers off they immediately start weaving. I know street tires warm fast and don't necessarily have to be warm but I would rather be safe.
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This is NOT to warm up the tires; it's to scrub them in a bit. When they first get going on a brand new tire, they do that to rough up the rubber a bit. And when they are coming back from the warmup lap, they are doing it to scrub off the debris that they might have picked up, because they usually don't stick to the racing line on the warmup lap, so they pick up little bits of dirt and rubber that as they are coming to the line they clean off by weaving.

It doesn't do shit to warm the tires. Braking and accelerating do that.
 
DaveT319 said:
This is NOT to warm up the tires; it's to scrub them in a bit. When they first get going on a brand new tire, they do that to rough up the rubber a bit. And when they are coming back from the warmup lap, they are doing it to scrub off the debris that they might have picked up, because they usually don't stick to the racing line on the warmup lap, so they pick up little bits of dirt and rubber that as they are coming to the line they clean off by weaving.

It doesn't do shit to warm the tires. Braking and accelerating do that.
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Very good. Now, the sides of the tire warm With turning. Why is that if it is not the friction?
 
DaveT319 said:
This is NOT to warm up the tires; it's to scrub them in a bit. When they first get going on a brand new tire, they do that to rough up the rubber a bit.
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High-Side said:
First off, Knoche quickly dispatched the old wives' tale that the surface of the tire needs to be scuffed or roughed up to offer grip.
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:rofl


PS, Squidly wins Post of the Day. :thumbup

Squidly McSmearstain said:
The front tire warmer is a lever (usually silver, but given you ride a GSXR it's probably colored and crafted from billet aluminum and costs more than your gloves or boots). Squeeze this while traveling forward to warm the front tire.
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sckego said:
:rofl


PS, Squidly wins Post of the Day. :thumbup
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Try reading with both eyes! :twofinger

High-Side said:
To clear up the issue of how to ride on new tires - First off, Knoche quickly dispatched the old wives' tale that the surface of the tire needs to be scuffed or roughed up to offer grip. "Maybe it's coming from the old days when people were spraying mold release on the tread when the molds were maybe not that precise," Knoche speculates, "and the machinery was not that precise. But nowadays molds are typically coated with Teflon or other surface treatments. The release you put in there (in the sidewall area only, not the tread) is for like baking a cake, you know, so that it fills all the little corners and today that is done more mechanically than by spraying. The sidewall is important because you have all the engraving in the sidewall [with tire size, inflation pressure and certifications] and that you want to look nicely on your tire, so that's why we still spray the mold release there."
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Ryangsxr600 said:
Very good. Now, the sides of the tire warm With turning. Why is that if it is not the friction?
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Just fucking ride the damn thing. Do you really think for a second that you have the capabilities to get everything out of your bike or tire?

Please post photos of your tire. I'd be willing to bet, you don't even use the edges.
 
The only heat that was developed from weaving, was the heat brought down when the OP got pulled over and presented with an award. :laughing
 
mcarb said:
Just fucking ride the damn thing. Do you really think for a second that you have the capabilities to get everything out of your bike or tire?

Please post photos of your tire. I'd be willing to bet, you don't even use the edges.
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How do I post from mobile?
 
Squidly McSmearstain said:
Serious suggestion.......Do not post a pic of your tires; unless you WANT a shit ton of drama and every know-it-all on BARF telling you how your riding is flawed.
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Don't listen to him. Post the pics. We need this.
 
Enchanter said:
A very well known motorcycle magazine did a test to see if that helped. It didn't. You cannot weave enough to warm your tires, it doesn't work.
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This. Weaving does nothing to warm your tires. And with modern street rubber, you really have more than enough available traction for everyday riding as soon as you leave your driveway.
 
Squidly McSmearstain said:
Just imagine what would happen if he were weaving on cold tires and hit some chewing gum. :wow
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:rofl

*insert apocalypse picture here*

Damn, Dave, you're on a roll today!!! :laughing :thumbup

corndog67 said:
No, it's one of those things where you throw yourself under the bus.
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Pretty much this.

OP, we just had that thread... please don't make it "chicken strips, part deux"... it won't end well... :facepalm
 
acidjzaz said:
this is all true.. but out of habit and routine.. how many riders still do this. I do:ride.. I have even taken training classes where this practice is still done.
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I've never done that. Nor have I ever had a reason to be worried that my tires were too cold.
It's my opinion (based on 43 years of riding with barely a thought given to tire temperature) that for normal street riding at a safe pace, tires don't need to be warmed up. ( I know there are some who will dispute that point, I said it was an opinion, based on my own experience, and works for me)

It's not until you're pushing the limits of cornering and braking that warm tires are significant, and while I do ride fast relatively often, I've never done it less than two or three miles from my garage. And on the only track day I've ever done, I didn't think about tire temperature at all aside from not hauling ass on the first lap.
 
I'm more worried about my tire's air pressure than its temperature - but that's how I roll. :laughing
 
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