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Ride Magazine One-Piece Leathers Performance Test

Only one question then why do most of the worlds top riders put themselves into A* or other reputable highly sold brands? What you think that just because a rider say not even a moto gp or ama or whatever racer gets paid they take that over their own saftey. Do a poll and get on some euro sites and see how the brands listed in the mag fair?

Kevin swantz if i remember rs-taichi you don't see them in the article?
 
Obviously there is some confusion on how these suits are "picked-out" for testing.

When magazines put together tests like these, they ask manufacturers to send them product that fits under the subject heading. In the case of this Ride Mag test, they asked manufacturers to send them a one-piece suit for testing, that's it.

It's about promotion of new and/or flagship models fro mthe comapny's standpoint. Free advertising to them, so they usually send their best or newest stuff. Every single manufacturer sent them their flagship or newest model of suit to test. These are the suits that those companies wanted to promote, and put their best foot forward. Not all companies respond, and not all companies get contacted in each and every magazine test out there, but most companies are constantly trying to get into one of these tests for the free advertising that comes out of it.

Ride is a UK publication, thus the tests centers around suits that are available there, it just happens that Dainese and Alpinestars sell the same suits in the US.

the biggest point is that the brands we recognize over here failed to show better performance in the repeatable testing procedures or even better comfort than other companies offerings. There is not much more to take away from this test than that. Be aware that not all the marketing hype is substance, as shown by the test data. Do you get what you pay for? Maybe, but in the case of Dainese and Alpinestars you are definitely paying for advertising vehicles, not substance.
 
You should post a poll in the Racers section of BARF and see who wears what brand. I can guarantee you there won't be many people who wear a HG suit. [/B]
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Maybe not here because it is difficult to find anyone selling them, but try asking in Europe.

On the flip side, go to Europe and try and find anyone wearing Joe Rocket or Vanson at the track or on the street. Its not because of quality so much as availability.
 
My Dainese suit tore at multiple impact points the last time I went down. I also have had several friends' Dainese suits do the same. Now this test shows a 1 out of 10 for tear resistance.

Great article!
 
I went with the HJC suit 5 years ago because they have layers of leather, soft armour, hard armour, and then a final of soft armour. Dainese has leather, hard, and then soft. The leather tears on impact because there is no give. Also several local racers had the HJC and road tested them with good results. I never road tested my HJC.
 
NinJaMAN said:
and hein gericke stuff too
i can't seem to find any in this country
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Hein Gericke is now just Gericke and theyre gonna establish themselves in the U.S with their own new line of stuff even though the FirstGear protective wear is part of their product line.....

The U.S distributor of Gericke InterSport, are also those that bring in HELD gloves, and Schuber helmets..

theyre also getting into the SuperMoto line of gear, or at least in Europe, which may start coming into America as well....

Here's a few samples of what's available by Gericke ....the picture don't do it justice but its well made and at a decent price...

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Just beacause a suit offers good crash protection does not automatically mean it is a good suit.
The suit MUST be comfortable.
Ive had a $400 suit with thick durable leather that did fit correctly and it was uncomfortable as a mofo.
I now have an A-stars smx-1 that is unreal in comfort. It almost feels like not wearing leathers at all. And no constuction problems either;)

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hondaf4iguy ---600rr.net said:
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My old Gericks. One lowside around 50mph at Jennings. I slid about 30ft before I was tossed in the air and flipped. This sis a Gericke Tribal suit. I will NEVER buy another Gericke Suit. Brands only have one opportunity to save my ass (literally) and this brand failed me miserably.

However, since this thread is now a pissing match I am going to lock it. No new info is being presented, therefore no added value.

Loves to you all.........
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license2ill said:
This test showed that you do get what you pay for, its just that in the case of BKS, Carrera, and Dannisport, you get substance over marketing hype.

the differences you stated as meaningful were dealt with in this test, and the mostly subjective criteria that is upposedly more importnat the the objective criteria were straight-forwardly analyzed. None of those suits suffered a low score for subjective criteria.

Tainted, who is the one selling this stuff? Better advice would be, don't believe everything you read or hear from a salesman.
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He is right.. about substance over marketing. Just because you have a full blown centerfold in a mag doesn't mean your stuff is any better then others. I speak to Dannisport on a regular plus I am a dealer of their goods so I know first hand the quality of their gear. I also spoke to reps at Carrera and they fiugre it's not about who has the flashiest adds that determines who actually produces quality gear. Why go mainstream if it will cause your quality to suffer? Think about it.. I put nothing past the other brands tested as I have tried a few but the proof is there so live with it. Eveyone has their favorites but sometimes more doesn't mean better when it comes to pricing.. Why not pick up the phone if you doubt the brands that rated higher then others and I am sure the reps will be glad to talk to you about it.. I did so why can't you?
 
NinJaMAN said:
and hein gericke stuff too
i can't seem to find any in this country
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It will be tough to find alot of these EURO brands soon. SWIFT and even SPYKE has determined they wuld rather keep their line overseas from my conversation with them as well as CLOVER. Only a handful of dealers in the US will actually carry these lines
if any.
 
Re: Re: Ride Magazine One-Piece Leathers Performance Test

motostrano said:
"absolutely nothing to do with performance" is quite an exageration.

i read the article thought it was pretty lame and the test results likely biased towards their advertisers, being a UK magazine. to say that Gericke's tribal suit is some how equivelent to the Race Replica suit is like saying a GB500 is the same as an RC51. you can have fun both and they both have 2 wheels and go, but there are plenty of features that justify the more expensive price.

look at what the article compared, firstly. they took alpinestars top of the line suit and compared it to others bottom of the line or mid tier suits. the atars suit comes wiith a full race back protector and kidney belt. the Gericke, a foam pad.

the astars race suit is fully perforated, more for extreme rider comfort, vs. pure protection. the astars air hump actually vents thru air channels all the way down to the riders legs.

all suits are not created equal and this article is more like an ad campaign for british suit companies.

joe
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:laughing
 
dammit....

this thread reminds me about the time I got into a car accident while driving my 73 Ford Pinto ( with wooden side panels ).....

Although I sustained minor injuries and my large cappucino spilled all over the dashboard, my 73 Ford Pinto (with wooden side panels ) was totalled.....

As with any motorcycle gear, while it may have saved the person who's wearing it from even more potential injuries and be able to walk away, no suit, regardless of price , make, quality is indestructible and can last forever....

just like my 73 Ford Pinto ( with wooden side panels ).....

if the suit did its job, that's what counts....
 
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I like how everyone is taking this one article as the gospel from God regarding suits and construction. One can manipulate the abrasion resistance test, if they wanted to, by testing the suits in different areas or by choosing an area that is double-layered by one manufacturer and not another. This is by no means saying this is what happened but it is possible.

Additionally, Hein Gericke product is also sold under the name First Gear.

My two cents, worth about a penny.
 
FlatOut said:
Only one question then why do most of the worlds top riders put themselves into A* or other reputable highly sold brands? What you think that just because a rider say not even a moto gp or ama or whatever racer gets paid they take that over their own saftey. Do a poll and get on some euro sites and see how the brands listed in the mag fair?

Kevin swantz if i remember rs-taichi you don't see them in the article?
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Well these riders get $$$ to wear these suits plus A-Star does not provide their sponsored riders with off the rack suits. Just like top riders wearing SuperTechs but the inner shell is Daytona?
Carrera is considered to the UK and Canada as Helimot is to the US it's just we just don't know these things until we do our research:confused If you watch MotoGP sure their all wearing A-Stars and Dainses but the 250 and 125 riders are sporting Carrera. If you watch Isle of Mann or British Supersport you will
see Dannisport or even RST, WOLF, and even SCOTT. There are so many brands we don't even hear about here in the US it's unreal. Do your homework then determine if this is a cheap advertisement move to blow up the English makers.
 
MelloGixxer said:
Well these riders get $$$ to wear these suits plus A-Star does not provide their sponsored riders with off the rack suits. Just like top riders wearing SuperTechs but the inner shell is Daytona?
Carrera is considered to the UK and Canada as Helimot is to the US it's just we just don't know these things until we do our research:confused If you watch MotoGP sure their all wearing A-Stars and Dainses but the 250 and 125 riders are sporting Carrera. If you watch Isle of Mann or British Supersport you will
see Dannisport or even RST, WOLF, and even SCOTT. There are so many brands we don't even hear about here in the US it's unreal. Do your homework then determine if this is a cheap advertisement move to blow up the English makers.
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Hey nothing personal just internet discussion:teeth so please do not take things personal or get offended by what I write.
 
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