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So, racism by Starbucks or just two guys who wouldn't buy a cup of coffee?

It's not because of "how they dress" it is because they "may be in a different political party or vote different".

Kind of petty, and stupid, but still don't think it rises to the level of equivalency. My opinion would be the same if it was someone wearing Hillary pin.
 
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Essentially a protected class and exactly why religion doesn't belong as a protected class, because it's just something people think, whereas everything else is an attribute outside of a person's control. But, since they're basically peers, then yes, maga hats and color/orientation/etc should be equally protected until we remove ridiculous thoughts from protected classes.
 
Yeah, religion and political party not being treated the same seems wrong to me.
 
Privilege is as privilege does.

Yup.

:laughing

except... that whole "public shaming" thing would only work on YOUR generation.... for the millennials that light would signify; "I got one over on the man ! :banana "

But also, when the light goes off, it should trigger a staff person to come over and face to face, making eye contact, question their beliefs and politely disagree with their perspective.

ENDGAME!

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So, it has been ruled that a business does not have to serve someone wearing a MAGA hat.......ie, they can be discrimanted for their political beliefs.

Where's the outrage?

Or is it certain types of discrimination that matters?

You can not be against one form of discrimination and not care about others.....thats hypocritical.

You're right, where is the outrage that people are still supporting that racist Cheeto?
 
So, it has been ruled that a business does not have to serve someone wearing a MAGA hat.......ie, they can be discrimanted for their political beliefs.

Where's the outrage?

Or is it certain types of discrimination that matters?

You can not be against one form of discrimination and not care about others.....thats hypocritical.

You can take off a MAGA hat.

More than that, a MAGA hat is actively trying to communicate a political stance. Having darker colored skin doesn't communicate anything.

Or at least, it shouldn't.
 
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So, it has been ruled that a business does not have to serve someone wearing a MAGA hat.......ie, they can be discrimanted for their political beliefs.

Where's the outrage?

Or is it certain types of discrimination that matters?

You can not be against one form of discrimination and not care about others.....thats hypocritical.
You might want to get your facts straight before making that claim.

He was asked to leave because he wouldn't take off his hat, a bar policy. He claimed that the MAGA hat was a reflection of his spiritual beliefs and thus protected.

Fox and others completely misrepresented the facts....nothing new. :thumbdown

Fake News, eaten up and swallowed by Fox News viewers.
 
So you are equating not serving someone because of their race to not serving someone because of how they dress. Ok....

To be fair in the Starbucks train wreck they would have been happy to serve those two guys.

They chose not to buy anything.
 
Black men arrested at Starbucks settle for $200K program
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Two black men arrested for sitting at a Philadelphia Starbucks without ordering anything settled with the city Wednesday for a symbolic $1 each and a promise from officials to set up a $200,000 program for young entrepreneurs.

The men and their lawyer told The Associated Press the settlement was an effort to make sure something positive came out of the incident.

"We thought long and hard about it and we feel like this is the best way to see that change that we want to see," said Donte Robinson, one of those arrested. "It's not a right-now thing that's good for right now, but I feel like we will see the true change over time."
Good to see that they didn't get greedy and tried to make it into something positive.
 
This was just for the suit against the city. Which I don't believe did anything wrong in this situation...

Are they still pursuing, or have any intention of creating, a suit against Starbucks?

starbucks should just give 'em their own store...... then find some reason to sue them and get the store back :x
 
Damn I was hoping this would go to court so we could see the return of Caveman Lawyer...

"I'm just a caaaveman, I don't understand your Carmel Machiattos or your Iced Mocha Lattes, but I do know that my clients lost the opportunity to change their lives and become multimillionaires, and for that they are due actual damages of $5.5 million dollars plus trebling for punitive damages, as well as pre-judgement interest at the maximum applicable federal rate of 3.42 percent compounded daily..."
 
This was just for the suit against the city. Which I don't believe did anything wrong in this situation...

Are they still pursuing, or have any intention of creating, a suit against Starbucks?

The chances there will be a lawsuit that goes to trial against Starbucks is slim. The chances that a lot of money changes hands through some settlement agreement is pretty good.

$200,000 is probably a starting point for Starbucks.
 
Black men arrested at Starbucks settle for $200K program

Good to see that they didn't get greedy and tried to make it into something positive.
Easiest
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I'd have provoked civil servants by not complying with lawful orders every day of the week when I fundraised for Planned Parenthood if I thought the city would roll over and vomit taxpayer dollars. I'd have even thrown in my own buck.

"We are all Heliogabalus, Bill."
 
The chances there will be a lawsuit that goes to trial against Starbucks is slim. The chances that a lot of money changes hands through some settlement agreement is pretty good.

$200,000 is probably a starting point for Starbucks.

Exactly my thoughts.

I want to be happy about their settlement with the city. However, the pessimist in me says their lawyers thought they had a shaky case, at best, against the city, and sees Starbucks as the cash cow in this situation. This settlement with the city is a PR stunt for both sides.
 
Exactly my thoughts.

I want to be happy about their settlement with the city. However, the pessimist in me says their lawyers thought they had a shaky case, at best, against the city, and sees Starbucks as the cash cow in this situation. This settlement with the city is a PR stunt for both sides.

Absolutely!
 
meh. Accepting the symbolic $1, a pr stunt or not, it's mostly sort of irrelevant in the long run. $200k, can help a lot of young people. And the undisclosed settlement with Starbux, well that's just the free market directing itself.
 
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