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So, you turn diving down to the Titanic into a tourist business..what could go wrong?

byke said:
I'm not sure there needs to be a difference. Whether it's an rov with fibers/conductors and synthetic rope, or just a synthetic rope, it's still just a big winch and there's nothing weird about the length. There's something different going on with that white stuff. It looks like it's almost the size of someone's forearm, but you wouldn't need something that size. Being tetherless, they already have to hook it no matter what, so if you just need to raise something to the surface to hook it, you don't actually need it to be very big.
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If you're using a tether like that, it's not just for raising and lowering, there would be communication, electricity and likely surface air being accomodated.
 
HappyHighwayman said:
I think that's what the waivers were for
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Waivers do not absolve negligence as we saw with whatshisname suing Laguna seca. There is already plenty of evidence the design was negligent, I am confident the maintenance schedule was similarly negligent and there were probably warning signs the hull had been damaged from the cyclic loading that previous passengers heard. Pops and bangs are the sounds CF makes as it fails internally
 
Climber said:
If you're using a tether like that, it's not just for raising and lowering, there would be communication, electricity and likely surface air being accomodated.
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Of course that's the best, though I don't think the air part is a thing, but I'm saying that if you already have the system that they have and want to remove the aspect about dying at the bottom of the ocean because of a mundane failure and you don't even need to raise in air, then...a lightweight tether is great.
 
There are plenty of ways they could have come back up, from the descriptions posted earlier, if that were a thing they could have physically managed.

I wonder how many of their solutions for getting back to the surface included electricity. One thing you absolutely want to keep minimum with CF is any kind of interfaces with other materials, that would include holes through the hull and whatever materials would be used to accomodate that.
 
Unfortunately, that was always going to be the most likely occurance, with multiple ways to get back to the surface, in the event of an emergency that didn't result in hull failure, there was little likelihood of people waiting at the bottom of the ocean to be rescured.

:rip
 
From what I've read, it was only a matter of time before this thing had a major malfunction. If not the tour before, than this one, or the next. It just happened to be these guys, but they were all playing Russian roulette getting on that motorized Pepsi can.

I bet the next group of passengers are feeling pretty lucky at this point.
 
Condolences to family and friends of the deceased.

At least it was quick it seems.
 
I guess this means the banging they heard, was something else, because they said they'd have heard the implosion and they did not. Suppose that also means they probably died from the very beginning at the moment they lost comms.
 
I almost guarantee our Navy heard the implosion. I doubt much goes on in the North Atlantic without them knowing it.
 
wazzuFreddo said:
I almost guarantee our Navy heard the implosion. I doubt much goes on in the North Atlantic without them knowing it.
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i've been wondering about that. a microphone somewhere had to have picked it up, but maybe didn't know what it was or where. if they did know the what and where, telling everyone might have revealed capabilities best kept secret?
 
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They said they didn't hear it and would have heard it, so I'm not sure they're really protecting any military interest by first stating that would have been been able to hear it.
 
Surprise, the ends blew off. The joints failed.

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No it was from the press conference, a guy with bars on his shoulder.
 
byke said:
They said they didn't hear it and would have heard it, so I'm not sure they're really protecting any military interest by first stating that would have been been able to hear it.
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I don't expect the Navy to be forthcoming with what they can hear and how.
 
WSJ says debris field found, indicative of catastrophic hull failure, actually two fields.
 
^ I guess the Carbon fiber tube itself could have shattered. There is no mention of finding it intact. It would be interesting to examine the titanium bells at the joint. I wonder if there is any carbon still bonded to the titanium.
 
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