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Spyke--What do you Know About it?
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jimboFosho
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mrzuzzo
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We have this is Moscow. Its done on Piaggio MP3s so its pretty safe - the thing can't really tip or low side or high side in normal city riding conditions. Its a godsend when you really need to be somewhere. That said, I wouldn't ride bitch on a 2 wheeled bike operated by someone I don't know. Its just too dangerous, but I would get on a Piaggio.
mean dad
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I don't see the problems you're all describing. How fast are you planning on riding? You could completely eviscerate city traffic without breaking the speed limit, by virtue of the bike's size and maneuverability.
And I seriously doubt that anyone who would 'freak out at the first corner' would sign up for a motorcycle ride in the first place.
If I lived in the city, or reasonably close, I'd sign up.
And I seriously doubt that anyone who would 'freak out at the first corner' would sign up for a motorcycle ride in the first place.
If I lived in the city, or reasonably close, I'd sign up.
pregrid
wait, what?
Hmmm, how fast to you have to be going to get seriously injured?
You can die walking. Point?
clutchslip
Not as fast as I look.
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How about you are stopped, at the corner of some nice SF hill and your passenger leans, and your foot slips, and he and you fall over and get run over by a UPS truck? Couldn't happen? Dunno. SF is rough enough without live weight on the back.
This will die faster than trampoline parks did because the liability is just wack-a-mole.
shinbone
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You guys seem to think that it'll be like giving 2up rides track style like Lee Parks.. Also you have to figure that your clientele won't necessarily all look like Kelly McGillis. 
I think it can work, but the bikes have to be somewhat limited to standards, scooters, and nimble enough sport tourers and cruisers. Realistically side or rear grab handles to maintain a bit of dignity for you and the passenger, no hooligan riding techniques, and probably no freeway due to risk and liability.
All in all, I think it could get kinda boring after awhile, but it can still be effective and work, especially during rush hour.
Probably carry a bunch of white cotton balaclavas as a courtesy and a largish helmet.
Just gotta think London and Bangkok:
I think it can work, but the bikes have to be somewhat limited to standards, scooters, and nimble enough sport tourers and cruisers. Realistically side or rear grab handles to maintain a bit of dignity for you and the passenger, no hooligan riding techniques, and probably no freeway due to risk and liability.
All in all, I think it could get kinda boring after awhile, but it can still be effective and work, especially during rush hour.
Probably carry a bunch of white cotton balaclavas as a courtesy and a largish helmet.
Just gotta think London and Bangkok:
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Pretty good. Increased risk is apparent. Still not super convinced.
Someone a few posts back stated it cant happen here. I agree. Because our culture doesnt accept anything but cars. London paris rome. Sure. They've dealt with motos and scooters forever. Here we havent. Cars dont expect or respect.
And related: people here who have experience on two wheels are super small percentage of road users. Leading to uncomfort and dangerousness with nooby squid business suit man on back. Until our culture accepts two wheeled transport as legitimate and more people get involved as riders and cars look out this idea wont work.
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IAmA M0t0r Ridεr
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We do have moto taxis in Brazil. I've seen plenty in Rio de Janeiro. They do drive much slower than any other biker in traffic - they filter slowly, compared to what everyone else's doing. Still 20x faster than a car stuck in 2h traffic for a 35 min route on a normal day. People do value that.
Never heard of an accident in the media - which generally disapproves it. Some even carry disposable plastic head caps (?) to line the generally open face helmets: most of their clients are working women (not always good looking, I must say, but it's the younger ones that do apply) and generally way over the pecking order of their motorcycle rider and their 125/250cc bike. I've seen many in traffic, and never saw the pillion leaning the wrong way once. Pillion males in those bikes look to me to be way more dangerous, because they seat way too far back in a small bike...
I heard the riders treat them like ladies and most are repeat customers.
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Reli
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Thought this was gonna be about Spyke the leathers manufacturer
mean dad
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I don't know what this comment has to do with carrying a passenger. The customer will be aware of the inherent dangers of riding a motorcycle, so an accident at the legal speed limit has no bearing on the discussion at hand.
Jesus fucking Christ, who the hell is the passenger, and why isn't the rider being aware of the weight shift and approaching UPS truck before the passenger makes them both fall?
It seems you're bringing outlandish scenarios to justify your fear.
Entoptic
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This is a bad idea on so many levels.
Having someone that knows nothing about riding on a bike is bad. Having someone with the ability to sue your ass because of their mistake is even worse.
The reason this works in other countries is because they don't sue you for dropping a bike. In America the passenger will drop the bike and have the muffler land on them burning their skin. Then in court they will side with the passenger and you will owe them for the rest of your life because of the nasty burn mark left on their leg which stopped them from becoming the millionaire they were destined to be.
Having someone that knows nothing about riding on a bike is bad. Having someone with the ability to sue your ass because of their mistake is even worse.
The reason this works in other countries is because they don't sue you for dropping a bike. In America the passenger will drop the bike and have the muffler land on them burning their skin. Then in court they will side with the passenger and you will owe them for the rest of your life because of the nasty burn mark left on their leg which stopped them from becoming the millionaire they were destined to be.
Yeah our liability laws prevent us to do cool things.
I could borrow a friend's touring bike and pick up strangers without too much risk.
But add in the insurance and you can get forget it.
Reli
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You ask most people if they've ever ridden on a bike, they claim yes but it's BS, they clasp their hands loosely around yourr waist like a moron, never brace against the tank during braking, splay their knees like chikcen wings, never lean forward during accel. Accident waitng to happen.
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