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The Most American Thing. Ever.

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DReg350 said:
I’m thinking the male in me loves this ad. The modern mature adult in me finds it offensive and objectifying. On second thought... F that. She read the script, posed for it and took the cash, so I’m goin with the male in me. :wow :laughing
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funny that you bring this up. Gotta love BARF.
Offensive and objectifying indeed.
 
Canada burger...moose meat with maple syrup
 
Technically speaking, objectifying is perfectly legal and deeply embedded in American culture and of course everything in one's culture must be viewed with respect and positivity, soooooo....please don't bigot his misogyny?
 
You decry bigotry and I smell objectification. A moderator posted this for what reason Oh wait, I think he posted it for the majority of the members. It certainly was not posted to protect the women here......

This place sucks sometimes.
 
In Alaska the natives are given cultural latitude with trapping animals, which is a clamp that breaks their limbs and they're stuck there for days until someone comes to check the trap, and when they return, they often beat the wounded animal to death with a club. To everyone else that's animal abuse, but to them, it's just their culture. So, maybe it's objectification to you, but it's also American culture. Why you hate other people's culture?







(just in case, I'm not being serious, I'm mocking barf's idiocy where we protect categories over merit because objectivity is dead)
 
I simply love you byke.
It's a love not shared often.
But I am able to love so that makes me correct on al levels of this game,

Love.
 
Melissa said:
You decry bigotry and I smell objectification. A moderator posted this for what reason Oh wait, I think he posted it for the majority of the members. It certainly was not posted to protect the women here......

This place sucks sometimes.
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You are being absurd. This woman in the ad is not being objectified. She is addressed by her name, nationality, and profession. By your line of reasoning, any Female Professional model or ad which shows good looking people being sexy to sell products would be objectification and that is just nuts.

People have sexual attributes, other people have reactions to said attributes. Attempting to create a social dynamic that does not acknowledge these things is drafting a false narrative of the human experience. Sexuality and the image of sexual desirability is not inherently bad or abusive.

You need to chill on that and by the way can we talk about HOW AWESOME THAT AIRCRAFT CARRIER WAS WITH A FUCKING BRO-DOZER REVVING IT'S ENGINE ON IT??
 
I think you're confusing perspectives. If a man and a woman are willing adult film actors and make a rape video, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that *until* they sell/give it to the public. At that point, they're promoting rape. So, between the people involved in making the video, you're right that there's no objectification occurring *until* they make the video public where it changes from something private, to a public video using one object (titties) to sell another (burgers). If I wanted to make the video seem okay, I'd use a different angle, like first amendment or whatever, but challenging what it is, isn't a winning argument, imo.
 
The commercial is "poking fun" at the common idea that Americans have a penchant for trying to establish/display their status through wasteful over consumption. Somewhat sad to see an ad leading insecure people to buy extravagantly nasty crap in comically large sized portions, by supposedly making fun of how easily manipulated people can be.
 
byke said:
I think you're confusing perspectives. If a man and a woman are willing adult film actors and make a rape video, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that *until* they sell/give it to the public. At that point, they're promoting rape. So, between the people involved in making the video, you're right that there's no objectification occurring *until* they make the video public where it changes from something private, to a public video using one object (titties) to sell another (burgers). If I wanted to make the video seem okay, I'd use a different angle, like first amendment or whatever, but challenging what it is, isn't a winning argument, imo.
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You are falling into the same trap of suggesting that using attractive people to promote things is objectification. That is simply not what that is.

Now, the Paris Hilton CJ's commercial, THAT was blatant objectification. In this one, the female participant, is named, given an identity, recognized that her appearance is professional in nature, is not degraded in any way (no classic dumb model persona) and is not gratuitously sexualized. SHe isn't even being diet shamed, because she is shown eating total fatty garbage for fun.

It simply is not that. Suggesting that it is, is to dive into that lunatic fringe of feminism that suggests women who wear make up and look like the woman in the video is somehow inherently oppressive to women. The feminazis who say that women shaving their legs is somehow degrading.
 
Eldritch said:
You are falling into the same trap of suggesting that using attractive people to promote things is objectification. That is simply not what that is.
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While I do not feel that the bikini model was particularly egregious for advertising, or even the main selling point of the ad. However, having a scantily clad actor in an ad without any dialog, really does embody objectification, IMO.
 
Um, i thought it was over the top on purpose. Like team america world police over the top.
 
Mike95060 said:
Um, i thought it was over the top on purpose. Like team america world police over the top.
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I agree that it was a slight exaggeration of advertising's ability to stoke consumption, while unabashedly doing just that.
 
Eldritch said:
You are falling into the same trap of suggesting that using attractive people to promote things is objectification.

It simply is not that. Suggesting that it is, is to dive into that lunatic fringe of feminism that suggests women who wear make up and look like the woman in the video is somehow inherently oppressive to women. The feminazis who say that women shaving their legs is somehow degrading.
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I love how you go from one point to another and connect them as if it were true.
You are kind of a master of words.
 
I found it very amusing.

Hotdog on burger is not appealing to me, but the chips might make for an interesting texture.
 
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