• There has been a recent cluster of spammers accessing BARFer accounts and posting spam. To safeguard your account, please consider changing your password. It would be even better to take the additional step of enabling 2 Factor Authentication (2FA) on your BARF account. Read more here.

Trail braking = adding brakes and lean angle at the same time ?

same number, #513.

yellow/red numbers, blue/silver R6, black suit, blue Riderz Law pop tent.

i guess i should update my sig

and to stay on topic, i will be trail braking to every single apex around Laguna that requires brakes except for T6 and T9. :laughing T6 you gotta have the bike upright before that huge dip at the curb. T9 on a 600 is an interesting "drag the brakes to load the front" sort of corner.
 
Last edited:
Holeshot said:
They really happen at the same time. As you're slowing, you're adding lean angle and turning towards the apex, coming off the lever as much as is needed to maintain quick entry speed. We want to be on the front brake lever on entries where we want to control front traction.

Moderately loaded, I'd say. The damn things don't turn in so good with max front braking. Robert is spot on though: Forks have to be loaded to be in their working range as well as, for a rider to have a large front contact patch. Once you let go of the front brakes before the apex, you have no control over the front of the motorcycle. Bikes do not "turn" until that front tire swings to the inside and that happens pretty closely to when a rider starts letting off the brakes and "trailing it in".
Click to expand...

I experienced this nicely today, an 'aha!' moment for sure. I carried maybe 20% more speed through the corner than usual and got on the gas at the right time after trail braking.

So that's what it's supposed to feel like

I wanted to do a U-Turn and just run that corner over and over again to commit that process more into memory but I'm late for work :mad
 
Holeshot said:
Good to hear Chris!
Click to expand...

Yes, thank you all for the input :) had a couple fun moments on the ride home.

I scraped my toe slider a bit at an apex of a turn. I keep the balls of my feet on the pegs so it surprised me a bit because I didn't think the bike was leaned over that far.

Keeping my head up and looking through the turn as early as possible, coupled with the trail braking techniques described here has eliminated my fear of over cooking an entry, at least the ones I'm familiar with and have clear sight lines through. I don't hang off much at all on the street besides my upper body, maybe a bit of butt movement.

Later I was taking another turn with good sight lines and no traffic and tested opening the throttle more than usual. I cracked it open at the same point in he turn as I normally do but i kept twisting it open until the rear stepped out a bit. Holy shit. Felt kinda like riding in the gravel at ACSO on kz1000p, fucking awesome haha :laughing

I also was able to lock up the front just enough as I was comin to a stop to smell a little rubber

I am liking this bike of no electronics more and more...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top