Uber riders don't seem to want to tip the driver

[Blankpage]

Never witnessed that particular act. I suppose I've only ever visited the more high end classy establishments.

 

[aminalmutha]

Fuck tipping.

Maybe Uber should try paying their workers a living wage?

Never tip Uber, but I usually take the Uber Black anyway.

Frankly, tipping is outdated and racist. And it's a legacy of slavery.

Or you’re a cheap ass.

 

[aminalmutha]

talked to a neighbor doing this part-part time. most do not tip, the ones who do tip, seem be those who have the least. pick up Richie rich from his mansion and drive him 1 hour to a $1500/night spa? no tip

pick up food server from bart and take them 3-5 miles? 50/100% tip

and she says the pay is pathetic, most of the time 1/2 or less of minimum wage

This has been so forever. Way back in my pizza delivery days, some dude living in a weekly rate hotel will tip but the fucknut in the mansion will give exact change, zero tip even tho you drove way the fuck out there.

People who have never struggled are the absolute worst.

 

[aminalmutha]

I know we want to make sure the drivers get their full cut and not screwed. It was Uber who was pinned as doing the screwing FYI. I just used Lyft for first time on business trip and the app spelled out clearly that 100% of tips go to drivers. Made me feel better about using their service. Also, easier for reimbursement of expense reports if all on the same record

Yup, this is why I use Lyft and I always tip.

 

[Climber]

This has been so forever. Way back in my pizza delivery days, some dude living in a weekly rate hotel will tip but the fucknut in the mansion will give exact change, zero tip even tho you drove way the fuck out there.

People who have never struggled are the absolute worst.

That's how they got rich, on the back of others (for many), leaving no stone unturned in their pursuit of self-enrichment.

I've known all to many like that, and they feed off of everybody around them, bragging about their wealth and being cheap-asses to everybody they come in contact with, including their family.

 

[wazzuFreddo]

I haven’t used Uber since an Uber project manager cursed me out on the phone and then did the same on a conference call a few days later. Reading the sexual harassment accounts from the company several months later sealed the deal.

 

[mercurial]

This has been so forever. Way back in my pizza delivery days, some dude living in a weekly rate hotel will tip but the fucknut in the mansion will give exact change, zero tip even tho you drove way the fuck out there.

People who have never struggled are the absolute worst.

I've definitely experienced what you describe. My experience was that attractive soccer moms were the worst. They'd try to tip you with leftover halloween candy, if they knew they could get away with it.

But, OTOH, there has definitely been a passive-aggressive (or some would say, just aggressive) attempt by the service industry to normalize all sorts of tipping shenanigans. Receipts that suggest 20% is the base tip for normal service, terminal software that tries to guilt trip you, calculations that include sales tax as part of the tip-able balance, weird one-off schemes that use a fixed service charge and then try to guilt you into tipping more at the end, strange web articles by service staff people that suggest that 30% is a normal tip, etc.

 

[Blankpage]

Doesn't Square ask for a tip on every transaction. I've actually avoided places where the terminal machine prompts for a tip. Screw tipping for simply putting something in a bag.

 

[mercurial]

Doesn't Square ask for a tip on every transaction. I've actually avoided places where the terminal machine prompts for a tip. Screw tipping for simply putting something in a bag.

Square and Clover have obviously A/B tested their UI and hardware design to optimize for greatest tip intake. "Innovation".

 

[Blankpage]

That 20% return on sales is a strong selling point for any merchant to adapt to using Square.

 

[bpw]

Doesn't Square ask for a tip on every transaction. I've actually avoided places where the terminal machine prompts for a tip. Screw tipping for simply putting something in a bag.

It's an option in Square that can be turned on. I use square and my customers have no way to tip since I keep it turned off.

 

[Izzy_C]

I just take taxis, usually getting to a show / bar in the city costs about the same as a private Uber... and the taxis always know the fastest way around town... and its not rideshare so

 

[Blankpage]

Recently went to a coffee shop in Berkeley and asked for an orange juice. It was fresh squeezed poured from a large container.
She flips the iPad around to face me and yeah it’s asking for a tip and if I remember correctly defaulting to 20%.
Two juices and a muffin were $14 and they wanted a tip on top. Shit is getting out of hand.

 

[Removed 3]

Ay Caramba!

 

[Blankpage]

 

[aminalmutha]

I've definitely experienced what you describe. My experience was that attractive soccer moms were the worst. They'd try to tip you with leftover halloween candy, if they knew they could get away with it.

But, OTOH, there has definitely been a passive-aggressive (or some would say, just aggressive) attempt by the service industry to normalize all sorts of tipping shenanigans. Receipts that suggest 20% is the base tip for normal service, terminal software that tries to guilt trip you, calculations that include sales tax as part of the tip-able balance, weird one-off schemes that use a fixed service charge and then try to guilt you into tipping more at the end, strange web articles by service staff people that suggest that 30% is a normal tip, etc.

All true. But if people who don’t tip pizza delivery people are assholes.

 

[bojangle]

But, OTOH, there has definitely been a passive-aggressive (or some would say, just aggressive) attempt by the service industry to normalize all sorts of tipping shenanigans. Receipts that suggest 20% is the base tip for normal service, terminal software that tries to guilt trip you, calculations that include sales tax as part of the tip-able balance, weird one-off schemes that use a fixed service charge and then try to guilt you into tipping more at the end, strange web articles by service staff people that suggest that 30% is a normal tip, etc.

I've noticed all of this. The deceitful calculation of sales tax into the tip really makes me want to tip less. I don't appreciate being tricked. Some places will use this deceitful calculation and have a suggested tip of 18%, which, in actuality is about 20%. Nope. Unless there was some exceptional service or something, I'll tip a true 15%, or maybe between 15-18%, but not using their bogus math.

The computer software is good at guilting tips out of people, especially for so called "services" that traditionally never used to receive a tip. But there's always a way to opt out of it all. It those cases, sometimes I'll just opt for no tip. Maybe, if I feel like it, I'll drop a bit of cash in the jar. But fuck this guilt tip normalizing.

Also, back when I was a teen and sales tax hovered around 7%, one could estimate the tip by doubling the tax and maybe adding a bit on. If one does that now, they're at, or over, 20% already, with many local sales tax rates at nearly 10%. Tipping in the US has definitely been on an upward trajectory from what it used to be, especially compared to other countries. But I think this is more to the benefit of the corporations than the workers.

All true. But if people who don’t tip pizza delivery people are assholes.

So, I wonder, why is it that pizza delivery drivers are more deserving of tips than the guys who work the kitchen?

I mean, now a days, I'm guessing maybe all those pizza employees get a little bit of tips through guilt tipping machines, but back in high school during my two year pizza career, I worked the kitchen in a time when tipping for pizza was not the norm. We never got tips. I guess the beer/wine bartender probably got some, and delivery drivers did too. But those tips weren't shared. Us poor schmucks working in the kitchen got min wage and no tips. The few rare occasions I did deliveries, it was more money with the tips and it was easier. I just wonder why that easier work was more tip deserving. It's odd.

 

[AbsolutEnduser]

The computer software is good at guilting tips out of people, especially for so called "services" that traditionally never used to receive a tip.

Actually on many "square" terminals I see, there is no way to see itemization and total price so you actually don't know whether the suggested tip is even on the base or on the total plus tax plus surcharge. Oh yeah..sucks.
I actually only sometimes try to remember that a place has a surcharge!!

 

[cfives]

...
So, I wonder, why is it that pizza delivery drivers are more deserving of tips than the guys who work the kitchen?
...
It's odd.

At first glance, I'd chalk it up to class structure. Someone who already owns a vehicle, is obviously more deserving of societal benefits, because they already own their own vechicle.

 

[bojangle]

Actually on many "square" terminals I see, there is no way to see itemization and total price so you actually don't know whether the suggested tip is even on the base or on the total plus tax plus surcharge. Oh yeah..sucks.
I actually only sometimes try to remember that a place has a surcharge!!

Even more sneaky.

At first glance, I'd chalk it up to class structure. Someone who already owns a vehicle, is obviously more deserving of societal benefits, because they already own their own vechicle.

You might just be onto something here.