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Undercover CHP at protests, locked and loaded?

Tharkûn said:
You mean cell phone video from a protestor? Lol
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or say a medical exam showing blows had been landed, where and how hard, something like that.

Im not syaing they werent, but ive yet to actually see anything offocial saying they were. reminds me of the wilson broken orbital bone, an anonymous claim that was sort of accepted, but never actually followed up on

they very well may have been, wouldnt surprise me, mostly wanting to see some kind of official report
 
kevin 714 said:
or say a medical exam showing blows had been landed, where and how hard, something like that.

Im not syaing they werent, but ive yet to actually see anything offocial saying they were. reminds me of the wilson broken orbital bone, an anonymous claim that was sort of accepted, but never actually followed up on
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Do you also want to see proof(as per HI) that they were banging on windows and instigating?
 
asthmodeus said:
well, if nothing else, this protest technique du jour of shutting down freeways is getting people to pay attention, so apparently it is doing some 'good'.

it's not just happening here either.
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Yes, it does get people to pay attention. So does shooting people. The question is whether the message is that people are assholes or there is a problem. So maybe some good is being done. Maybe
 
}Dragon{ said:
The protesters who think it's "justice" to block people from getting to work/home, or the hospital (not to mention looting stores and damaging/burning property) are worse of a plague than the message they are trying to get across. They do NOTHING to help their "cause".
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Back in the Occupy days --and I did walk one time--, folks would block and mess with workers in the Financial District. The fools! A huge chunk of people working in finance earn less than $60K and must go to work for physical paperwork, stamps, signatures, orders, etc. The real fat cats stirring legislation, approving increases of ATM fees, interest rates, etc, can work from home and have minions to fight shitty protests on the way to and from work. That's the irony. The protesters weren't/aren't hurting the real people creating havoc. To hurt them, block the entrance to fancy airports and docks. But leave the brother and sister that have to make ends meet alone.
 
Marcoose said:
Back in the Occupy days --and I did walk one time--, folks would block and mess with workers in the Financial District. The fools! A huge chunk of people working in finance earn less than $60K and must go to work for physical paperwork, stamps, signatures, orders, etc. The real fat cats stirring legislation, approving increases of ATM fees, interest rates, etc, can work from home and have minions to fight shitty protests on the way to and from work. That's the irony. The protesters weren't/aren't hurting the real people creating havoc. To hurt them, block the entrance to fancy airports and docks. But leave the brother and sister that have to make ends meet alone.
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The end. Exactly.

Go have your fucking rally in Piedmont or Pacific Heights in SF. Not in Oakland where the only people who suffer are workers. The ONLY reason the protests are in Oakland is that the City leadership is too cowardly to resist, and the budget to scant to effectively police.
 
kevin 714 said:
is there proof the undercover officers were being attacked?

srious question, as I do not know
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There's a statement from the reporter who took the photo. Wasn't it that they were about to be attacked while making an arrest, so the officer drew his gun to discourage the would be attackers?

I'm still waiting for some sort of proof the UC officers were trying to incite a riot, or looting, or something along those lines.

Human Ills said:
I took great pleasure in calling them shameful tools of the criminal elite. I don't know why they were afraid to murder me, probably because I am middle aged and white wearing MY working attire.
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And they didn't murder you??? They must have been off their game or something. Weird! :laughing

Tharkûn said:
How many water bottles full of piss did they throw at you?
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Wait, we can do that? :p

Human Ills said:
How many unarmed citizens have I murdered?
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Probably about as many as I have... Give or take a couple.

kevin 714 said:
lets set up the meet. each can bring a chaperone lol

Ill accompony Ills, rel, who you bringing? :laughing
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Rel is bringing The Reaper, of course. :laughing

BTW, you guys never did meet up, right?
 
bojangle said:
I'm still waiting for some sort of proof the UC officers were trying to incite a riot, or looting, or something along those lines.
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I've been asking for that many times. HI should just admit that he's full of crap.
 
Tharkûn said:
Btw the hippies leave by 9pm, I'm sure you can find an article about that on the Internet somewhere
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Incorrect. On Saturday, the main "Millions March" protest with the mothers of kids killed by police speaking started 2pm and ended after 4pm which most people left after marching back to OG Plaza. It was a mainstream crowd with various mainstream organizations present as well as the "radicals".

4:30-5 was the start of the FTP march organized by the "anarchist" faction who is responsible for promoting the vandalism. That march was ended after 8pm when people were kettled the 2nd time and arrested.

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Oakland protests: Plainclothes CHP officer's gun use draws scrutiny

Full Article:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaki...tests-plainclothes-chp-officers-gun-use-draws

Excerpts:
Carlos Villarreal, executive director of National Lawyers Guild, said the tactics used by CHP echoed Tuesday night's protest, at which officers fired bean bags from a freeway overpass at protesters below.

Both are detectives in the agency's Bay Area auto theft unit,
One protester, Dylan Leavitt-Phibbs, 23, said Thursday marchers had been questioning the pair for blocks, but they wouldn't identify themselves as police officers or protesters. Leavitt-Phibbs, who recently moved from Minnesota to Berkeley, said he pulled a mask from one of the officers after he refused to identify himself. Leavitt-Phibbs, who is white, said he was not arrested, but a fellow protester, who is black, was.

"If there was a uniform officer we would act accordingly," he said. "There was a moment as soon as I pulled off his mask he was still acting like a civilian. Our feeling was betrayal.

"What struck me was how quick they were to pull out guns."
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so why are the cops the only ones with covered faces in some of the pics? if they were there to gather intel on how to stop freeway shutdown organization, why are they dressing like halfassed black bloc types?
 
Would pulling a mask off of someone without permission be considered a crime? Assault?
 
matt1216 said:
But I also think that the way the police line up and stand there kind of invites that kind of thing. Why not go into the crowd in uniform in small groups? That way you could catch or prevent vandals.
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Wading into a hostile crowd is a good way to get hurt, and have the situation get out of hand very quickly.
 
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