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Used Truck Suggestions

+58363 on the 2000 Toyota Tacomas!!! Good choice, me too. :thumbup
 
I don't know what all you dudes and dudettes have been driving in to Tahoe, but I have been out literally DOZENS of times on 80 and 50 going up or down the hill when there is a SHITLOAD of fresh on the ground - the claim about Caltrans shutting it down with 1/4" of snow on the road, while obviously exaggerated, just ain't true.

I have a Civic, and like MLM said, it sucks ass to drive in chains. My next car will be 4WD/AWD or have Spyders on it. I usually take about six to ten weekends to the snow per season and I'm tired of chains. :laughing
 
Any of you people who are complaining about the 4x4 ever own one?

Yes, several. And I never complained about 4x4s. I merely said that he didn't need one for what he said he wanted to do with it.

As for the snow, he didn't say that he was moving to Tahoe, he said he wanted a vehicle that could get him snowboarding. If the weather is shit, and there's any more than 2" of snow on the road, Caltrans will shut 50 and 80 down well below the summit. People who live in the sierras still need to get around, thus 4x4s with real snow tires are better than hooking up chains all the time; no question about that. People who llive in the bay and want to go boarding on bad weather days get to stay home or park it at applegate and hope the weather clears.

Oh, and to all you people saying that 4x4 only helps you get going faster... y'all are nuts! 4x4 also helps immensely with steering and engine braking (at least when compared to a 2wd truck). Still, I've driven all kinds of vehicles in the crappy weather, and as long as the snow is 6" or less, I'd take a FWD car with spikes spiders hads down. If it's more than 6" deep, I probably wouldn't be out in it anyway, but if I was, I'd want an ol skool 4x4 with Tcase and locking hubs, and real snow tires.
 
Radvas, I've been over the summit 3X now when it was more than 2" of snow on the roadway. In fact, it was a fucking whiteout 2 of those times. 2WD cars/ vehicles with chains weren't making the grade. Some 4X4's with bad tires were having issues as well.

Most the vehicles making it up were 4X4 type...me in a Grand Wagoneer once and Subaru wagon once and Allroad Audi the last time.
 
It helps to have traction control when driving up to the ski resorts through snow. I don't what's all this bashing on 4x4's, they only use like 1-1.5 more mpg. Big deal. And who the hell said they don't last as long? 4x4's obviously don't mean it an absolute deterrent to washing out in snow, you've also go to have good tires. But it sure beats the hell out of a 2x4 with bad tires also. I've got a 2wd 4runner and I also go up to the snow a lot, I always make sure my tires have lots of tread and with the traction control I've never had a problem, but it would be nice to have the 4wd, I was just too cheap at the time to get it, now I regret it.
 
Winner.

For you who are bashing AWD. How many miles have you driven with tire chains?

The last car over Echo Summet before it was closed for avalanche control... And a lot of other ski trips as well.

Chains are a bit of a pain, but on a FWD car, you can plow through a LOT of S@#)(* on it no problem.

A FWD car with chains will handle better than a lot of 4WD vehicles in such conditions, because although slow, your drive wheels are the only ones powered and have better traction on the snow thanks to the chains.

4WD is nice, but if you are just using it for a couple of ski trips to tahoe, its unnecessary overkill.
 
I do have a FWD sedan currently, and I never even got to use the chains I bought for it last winter season. I tend to keep an eye on the weather anyway before I hit the road, and only hit up the slopes when I can safely get there.

Considering that the urge to buy a truck was brought on by my hauling needs for my bikes, I've seriously reconsidered requiring a four-wheel drive vehicle. The market tends to increase in size for me when I include 2WD's.
 
Radvas, I've been over the summit 3X now when it was more than 2" of snow on the roadway. In fact, it was a fucking whiteout 2 of those times. 2WD cars/ vehicles with chains weren't making the grade. Some 4X4's with bad tires were having issues as well.

Most the vehicles making it up were 4X4 type...me in a Grand Wagoneer once and Subaru wagon once and Allroad Audi the last time.

I'm taking caution to point out that I said I prefer a front wheel drive car with spikes spiders. That's a world of difference between a read wheel drive 2wd truck with chains. I'm not a fan of chains, and if I can avoid them, I will. The real point of distinction though is that FWD or 4WD makes an enormous difference in steering control.

Even so, I've been through some pretty heavy snow (well more than 2") on 80 and 50 in my old 2WD Chevy 3/4 ton with chains. I don't have the truck anymore, but I know from experience that it can be done.

Finally, I got the impression that driving in the snow is not going to be the main activity of this vehicle. So snow-worthiness should be a concern, but not the key concern. So there you go. Not hatin, just stating my preference for alternatives.







2" of snow isn't much. If cars weren't making it, I'd bet it was more than that. Or people really don't know how to drive.
 
Ok, totally agree with you now...way FWD over a RWD truck...FWD works damn well in the snow...that I agree with.
 
Bump for this thread!

Few questions

For the Crew Cab Taco/Frontier owners. With the short 5' bed, is it safe to put the bikes in the bed? I imagine the rear tire being at the very edge if not onto the tailgate

For the extended cab taco owners, i mean Ive seen pictures of the back seat, is it really usable at all for an adult?

Im in sinnceres same position, want a truck to transport bikes to the track, but also want 4wd/seating for 4 so I can get it up to tahoe.

List of potentials are

Crew/Extended cab Tacoma
Crew/Extended cab Tundra
Extended cab F150 (05+)
Extended cab silverado/sierra (04+)
 
i have an extended cab tacoma Prerunner, and it fits 2 bikes, and all my gear with 2 bikes. It will be a tight fit with 2 bikes, but for 1 bike, there is plenty of room.

Bump for this thread!

Few questions

For the Crew Cab Taco/Frontier owners. With the short 5' bed, is it safe to put the bikes in the bed? I imagine the rear tire being at the very edge if not onto the tailgate

For the extended cab taco owners, i mean Ive seen pictures of the back seat, is it really usable at all for an adult?

Im in sinnceres same position, want a truck to transport bikes to the track, but also want 4wd/seating for 4 so I can get it up to tahoe.

List of potentials are

Crew/Extended cab Tacoma
Crew/Extended cab Tundra
Extended cab F150 (05+)
Extended cab silverado/sierra (04+)
 
I like those, my only issue is rear passenger room. Can you fit 4 regular adults in there for a 3hr+ trip to tahoe?
 
I like those, my only issue is rear passenger room. Can you fit 4 regular adults in there for a 3hr+ trip to tahoe?

i have done it plenty of times. Its not too bad, but anything farther would be a pain.
 
Yeah thought so. I'd really like the newer crew-cabs with the longer bed, but those are still $$$$. Can get a brand new full-size or even a new taco for what ppl are asking used (23-25k!)

Oh yah, price range is <15k, 10k would be nice :cool
 
Yeah thought so. I'd really like the newer crew-cabs with the longer bed, but those are still $$$$. Can get a brand new full-size or even a new taco for what ppl are asking used (23-25k!)

Oh yah, price range is <15k, 10k would be nice :cool

yeah, the tacomas hold their value really well, even in a shitty economy. I have a 2000, I'll sell it to you for 21k :twofinger
 
Sure if it comes with both of your bikes in the back :twofinger
 
Dude, I ended up getting an '88 F150 XLT, after nearly a year of hauling with a car and trailer combo. It's made my life so much easier for hauling the bike(s) that I could care less about it not being 4WD or a crew cab (just an extended cab). I stopped worrying about using it for snowboarding since all my money goes to trackdays anyway. :teeth
 
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