Walking Dead season 5

[sanjuro]

BTW, I think Pete's death is a defense of the Death Penalty.

One thing that bugged me is how Pete, who is a surgeon, is never shown in doctor's garb or administering to his patient. There were plenty of shots of him drunk or in sitting in darkness though.

When Rick offered to kill him, I was a bit shocked. I'm not saying Pete should not have been dealt with, but there were several punitive options.

Actually many arguments for the death penalty are "What if your husband was killed?", which is what Pete did to Deanne. What is the point of having a rule when emotion will overrule it?

Now, kicking him out is probably a death sentence, but at least it is a chance.

 

[1sicv8]

Now, kicking him out is probably a death sentence, but at least it is a chance.

The somewhat address the idea of exile and how it isnt the best option. What is stopping people who have been exiled into finding their way back and seeking revenge, especially with more people.

 

[Rel]

The somewhat address the idea of exile and how it isnt the best option. What is stopping people who have been exiled into finding their way back and seeking revenge, especially with more people.

Exiled people just come back pissed off, with friends....

 

[Mr Pepsi]

The somewhat address the idea of exile and how it isnt the best option. What is stopping people who have been exiled into finding their way back and seeking revenge, especially with more people.

Kinda assuming this is the plan for next season with the Wolves.

 

[1sicv8]

I think I am going to binge watch this season asap... i feel like i miss so much week to week

 

[kongjie]

BTW, I think Pete's death is a defense of the Death Penalty.

I wouldn't say it is a defense of the death penalty--I think it raises the question of the death penalty. Just like all of the PTSD of the group raises the issue of armed forces returning into society.

Just because Rick killed Pete doesn't mean everyone is going to think it was the right move. Rick has been ready to kill Pete for some time and of course the senator called for Rick to do it out of anguish and a need for revenge. But it's controversial. That's why it was done in front of "every life is precious" Morgan.

I suppose also the senator might have been calling for Rick to destroy her husband's brain before he turns. Or she may claim that was what she meant.

Death penalty ethics aside, killing the one remaining doctor is a problematic move. Better off putting him in confinement without booze for a few months. You may find him essential before long.

 

[sanjuro]

The somewhat address the idea of exile and how it isnt the best option. What is stopping people who have been exiled into finding their way back and seeking revenge, especially with more people.

The lengthy discussion from Aaron about the people he exiled was likely foreshadowing.

I doubt Pete would survive a day but Carol was exiled and she came back to save them from Terminus. Of course, she is a good guy, and Pete is not.

 

[SFSV650]

Remind me why they can't have a jail?
If the doctor refuses to treat patients while in custody, I imagine a dietary incentive package could be used to modify his behavior.

 

[kongjie]

Remind me why they can't have a jail?
If the doctor refuses to treat patients while in custody, I imagine a dietary incentive package could be used to modify his behavior.

You could have a jail for a reasonable person. But Pete is enraged and unreasonable, and when he got "out" of said jail he might be disgruntled. There is no room in this scenario for a disgruntled, unreasonable person. He could kill the present leaders and make himself king; he could in one move destroy the entire town by letting in zombies; or he could betray the town to outsiders in search of supplies.

 

[RightCoastBias]

Remind me why they can't have a jail?
If the doctor refuses to treat patients while in custody, I imagine a dietary incentive package could be used to modify his behavior.

Seems like a huge waste of resources and putting someone's life in the hand of a rage monster who is locked up seems silly.

Maybe rev can jump in here, or someone who read the comics, but I think the doc lives in that and him and the wife are separated.

 

[revnort]

Seems like a huge waste of resources and putting someone's life in the hand of a rage monster who is locked up seems silly.

Maybe rev can jump in here, or someone who read the comics, but I think the doc lives in that and him and the wife are separated.

I agree it is a huge waste of resources, although the very same questions does indeed come up later again in the comics.

As for the doc and his fate in the comics it goes down pretty much like it just did on the show with a few key differences.

In the comic the doctor is beating both his wife and his kid, not just his wife. There is no love interest from Rick until after all this goes down, and she makes passes at him once he is dead.

In comic it is a guy who is running the town and his wife is killed (he cheated on her or attempted to regularly anyway). He is devastated still and tells Rick to kill the doc pretty much in the same way.

They are not at a meeting deciding Ricks fate when it happens for sure, the town leader had already forgiven Rick and said that he assumed Rick was never going to shoot anyone with the gun, but it was more to show him (leader dude) that Rick was going to do whatever it took (even if it meant disobeying) to keep people safe. He was already reinstated as constable and the dude goes after him and kills leaders wife.

Morgan was already with them in the town and it never really deals with any conflict between them.

Pretty shortly after (maybe immediately) something happens which further backs up Rick's attitude, although I wont get into what that is right now.

 

[SFSV650]

Spoilers///

The arrival of Morgan closely resembles a scene from the game, the whole point of which seems to be 'try to protect the little girl you're watching over without ever letting her see you as a monster'. You've got the option to brutally kill a very, very bad dude, but if you go through with it the camera will cut to a very shocked girl looking at you, scared and disappointed.