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Will EBMUD (and other water districts) lower their rates now that we're not in drought..

Junkie said:
1000 people living in a skyscraper use significantly less water than 1000 people living in single family homes
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This makes no sense. If two people take two showers a day, and boil two meals a day and drink 84 cups of coffee, they will use the same amount of water no matter where they live. And this continues with washing and cleaning. If you wash the same number of clothes and clean the same sized floors, you use the same amount of water.

On the other toadstool, if people are keeping other things alive with water, like bushes and trees, then you are comparing apples to raisins. Those plants add oxygen to the planet and beauty to our lives.

There are just too many damn people in California. This recent draught would not be a big deal 40 years ago. And we are encouraging more people to move here from other countries. This just does not work.

I don't know how much run-off we can add to the water supply, but we better start doing something with that 50 mile L.A. river water besides flooding Long Beach, for example.
 
oobus said:
That's good to know! I'm wondering what happens in the summer when there is less flow? Is there a site where the water quality in the Bay can be seen on a weekly/monthly basis?
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The amount of water in the Bay is pretty static. If the fresh water doesn't come down from the hills, the salt water replaces it from the Pacific, via the Bay.

I'd bet the water board or Sacramento County has something like that. I'll ask my water board friend when I see her.
 
Climber said:
Or will they just keep the rates elevated (100% higher than 10 years ago) and give themselves large pay increases?

Thoughts?
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It will never drop. They will use it to pay for the pensions bankrupting them.
 
Flood control is a biggie. The Central Valley is a flood plain. Without dams, California as we know it today wouldn’t exist.
 
Cycle61 said:
Cadillac Desert
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And "Water and Power a Califonia Heist". Never will think of "Pom Wonderful" as wonderful.


The whole water system is screwed up. The delivery (and maintenance) to home is the main cost of water for residential use. Many areas of the state still do not have water meters. This is really not a bad thing, more maintenance and guess who pays for the meter, the ratepayer. I lived in an area without meters and peer pressure from neighbors cut water usage by 25% in the drought. We all still paid the same annual rate for water service. No saving to the homeowner for cutting water use. If everyone did not have a meter for home use think how much could be saved. Charge by sq ft and if we have a drought use peer pressure and the same fine many have now for water runoff. No meter readers and all the bureaucracy that goes with the reading of the meters.

Sacramento did not have meters for years and now they are adding them. Rates will be going up to pay for the meters and added bureaucracy. I lived in an area small enough we have not had to go to meters. But I am sure they are coming, easy way to make more money for the water district.
 
If you didn't have a water meter, how did you know how much you used, or if you cut by 25%. For that matter how would your neighbors know?
 
UDRider said:
If you didn't have a water meter, how did you know how much you used, or if you cut by 25%. For that matter how would your neighbors know?
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Main meter where the County buys the water from the Stockton East Water District. The point is water is really cheap it the delivery and the wastewater that is $$$. During the drought, I worked for a cannery and we looked for ways to save water. We cooled cans in our retorts with city water. 12 retorts 6' dia by 30' long. Inside 5 baskets full of Hormel Chili in cans. To cool we filled the retorts to top vent and opened the 8" drain 1/2 turn and let the water run for 90 minutes. Looked at putting in a cooling tower to reuse the water. $$$$$ and it does not pencil out. So we just put good clean water down the drain.:wow
 
bikeama said:
Main meter where the County buys the water from the Stockton East Water District. The point is water is really cheap it the delivery and the wastewater that is $$$. During the drought, I worked for a cannery and we looked for ways to save water. We cooled cans in our retorts with city water. 12 retorts 6' dia by 30' long. Inside 5 baskets full of Hormel Chili in cans. To cool we filled the retorts to top vent and opened the 8" drain 1/2 turn and let the water run for 90 minutes. Looked at putting in a cooling tower to reuse the water. $$$$$ and it does not pencil out. So we just put good clean water down the drain.:wow
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Doesn't quite answer my questions, but that's OK.
 
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