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Indian Scout FTR1200

Surj said:
But for the vast majority of riders, the weight doesn't matter beyond the spec sheet. Yeah, all things being equal, a few less pounds is good. But it's the whole package that matter—as Bill says, the smile. I ride a lot of bikes, and I can't remember the last time the lightest bike in its class was the most fun. Yes, that's my opinion. :dunno

We see this in real world bike usage over and over, yet every new bike that comes out, the "it's too heavy" circle jerk comes round again. :laughing
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OK. I'm guilty of putting most of my miles on my heaviest bike, so I understand the "whole package" deal you and Bill are talking about. It's a good point.

But I don't think complaints about weight are a "circle jerk." My heavy bike would be a WHOLE LOT more enjoyable 50 pounds lighter. I think the manufacturers have heard this, sort of... and weight reduction is no doubt expensive. So the weight loss sheds slowly...

So,... the weight of the FTR, being a "street tracker" is disappointing (to me) in this aspect.
 
WWWobble said:
OK. I'm guilty of putting most of my miles on my heaviest bike, so I understand the "whole package" deal you and Bill are talking about. It's a good point.

But I don't think complaints about weight are a "circle jerk." My heavy bike would be a WHOLE LOT more enjoyable 50 pounds lighter. I think the manufacturers have heard this, sort of... and weight reduction is no doubt expensive. So the weight loss sheds slowly...

So,... the weight of the FTR, being a "street tracker" is disappointing (to me) in this aspect.
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There's certainly a time and a place for being concerned about weight, but I don't think a street tracker is one of them. If it were an actual race bike, or even something moderately track focused, I think you'd have an argument. While there's no direct competition, I think this bike might slot nicely in where Harley's Dyna line has gone away. I doubt anyone will seriously cross shop this with the Duke or Tuono. This bike has a different audience.
 
FTR ? Yes please.

I remember feeling like this when HD and Buell introduced their (then) new line of motorcycles and I had hope of an American made street machine that didn't cause laughter when I parked at my friends homes on Sunday mornings.

But Harley emasculated the line and let the asperations of Eric bleed out in a slow death. My finger twitched on the trigger but never fired the bullet of purchase and now, I am glad I didn't.

Indian FTR, yes. Hesitation blues, though. Will Indian finish development and go into production ? Will the model become a long production run? Will there be aftermarket farkles? Will the machines prove durable ? Will there be build quality ? Can I count on Indian when they screw up on a bike?

My checkbook is burning in my pocket as I type. I do so much want an American stand out bike but hesitation blues, you know. In the meantime, fantasy holds my attention nicely.
 
russ69 said:
Something closer to this would work for me but the more race bike like the better. BTW, this is the baseline motor used in the factory Harley flat tracker.
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yo, Russ, great to see you posting again

me a li'l confused - isn't that 750 H-D
about as heavy as the FTR1200? [OK, @ 2/3 the $$]
 
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Spoke to a dealer this morning. Says he already has a bunch of deposits down. Doesn't expect to actually see a FTR in person til April-June next year. And since he already has deposits test rides won't be an option until those people are taken care of. So I won't even be able to sit on one until next year some time. I thought about putting a $200 deposit down(fully refundable) on one to secure my place in line just in case I decide I want one but decided not to. I'll just wait. If I like it enough to want one I'll probably wait until someone gets one, doesn't like it and trades it in for something else and then swoop it up at a discount.
 
Disappointed exhaust is routed on wrong side. Anyway this bike is on my list when I can get out riding regularly again.
 
Did someone post Revzilla's "first look?"
I didn't see it in this thread.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tre...r-1200-and-ftr-1200-s-first-look-100118-|tpfn

First half is the usual heritage B.S., but then we get to some specs.

"To start with, the engine for both the 1200 and the 1200 S is a liquid-cooled, 1203 cc, 60-degree V-twin. With dual overhead cams, four valves per cylinder, and a compression ratio of 12.5:1, this is a very sport-oriented powerplant. Indian claims it makes 120 horsepower at 8,250 rpm and 85 foot-pounds of torque at 6,000 rpm.

The engine utilizes a low-inertia crankshaft which Indian says will allow power to spin up rather quickly. It’s then delivered via a six-speed gearbox controlled by a slipper-assist clutch. In order to maximize output, a final 525 chain is used to drive the rear wheel."
 
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Junkie said:
how is it "on wrong side"?
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This.

Personally, I grew up with my race bikes all having the exhaust on the right side, tracks in the US are all left hand tracks, right? The thought being keeping the low side clear of a lot of shit to get caught or bent. Of course, if you high side all bets are off.

Other than that, curious why you would care?
 
S&S after market pipes are already available. That looks good, much more like the prototype but I would be worried about burning my leg. They also took off the rear fender. They are supposed to have a lot of different after market parts available on this bike, carbon fiber etc.

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Entoptic said:
I’ll keep everyone updated. There is an Indian dealership by my house which I’m so happy about.

They didn’t have any info on when it will come in.
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I'm hearing March 1st. I'm also hearing 8 motorcycles per dealer initially with more as they are ready.
 
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