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Porsche Panamera S ?

Interested also!

Oooh man.. Well that's a change, not buying a Golf R instead!??
Well, it is the R version but it's not like you didn't start a thread about it and I was wondering if it's better than the STI! :laughing

Hm I guess the NSX might work too!! :laughing :later
 
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It seems odd (for both parties) that the price wasn't agreed on when he placed the order.

I'm not hating - I totally get the supply and demand thing. When I bought a WRX back in 2001, you could drive them off the forecourt for $8k over invoice, or order and wait 8 weeks for invoice price. I did the latter, but to each his own.

My thoughts also. How does one place an order for a specific configuration without a contract and a firm price? :wow
 
Sorry Rob, but $50K over sticker for a guy who's had a deposit down for 10 years sounds shady. Again, did they not agree on the price prior?

I would not buy on principle alone.
 
I am going to look for a previous gen S550 when car pool sticker privileges are over in 2019. By then a 2007-2013 should be nice and depreciated.
 
Get an S63 instead. Much better motor.

-0. Stay as far from the 6.2L AMG motor as you can get. Broken head bolts and cam gear problems are inherent to it. Dudes are losing entire motors due to the head bolts breaking and the things flooding the cylinders with coolant..bent rods, etc. Ugh. My Roomate's in for $9,700 of fixes on his 25K mile CLK63 Black Series. Fun times.
 
Dat noise it makes though....

I'd get a DBS if I wanted an expensive noise maker.

Sorry Rob, but $50K over sticker for a guy who's had a deposit down for 10 years sounds shady. Again, did they not agree on the price prior?

I would not buy on principle alone.

+1. When I got my car, the dealer wanted 20k over MSRP after I had a deposit down for a year. Told him to fuck off and got it for 2 over somewhere else.
 
It seems odd (for both parties) that the price wasn't agreed on when he placed the order.

I'm not hating - I totally get the supply and demand thing. When I bought a WRX back in 2001, you could drive them off the forecourt for $8k over invoice, or order and wait 8 weeks for invoice price. I did the latter, but to each his own.

My thoughts also. How does one place an order for a specific configuration without a contract and a firm price? :wow

Sorry Rob, but $50K over sticker for a guy who's had a deposit down for 10 years sounds shady. Again, did they not agree on the price prior?

I would not buy on principle alone.


Oh no. It was mentioned up front and all along the process. I'll paraphrase the sequence of events...

Us-Hi Mr. xxxx. Good news! You can finally order your NSX. Your deposit has been with us for what seems like forever but the day has finally come. Just so you know that we will be asking a $50k premium over whatever MSRP your specification winds up at as this is a very limited release vehicle and you will have the very first one around here. Are you ready to move forward.

Him-Yes. Sounds good.

*some time later*

Us- Hi Mr. xxxx. Thank you for placing an order. We're just about set to "lock it in" and send it to the factory. Are there any changes you'd like to make? As it sits right now, your specification is blah blah blah with a MSRP of xxx, destination of xxx, and a $50k market adjustment. Everything still sounds good?

Him-Yup! Can't wait for it to come in!

*two days after the order is processed*

Him-I'm having second thoughts. And the price seems a bit high. I would like to just pay MSRP.

Us-I'm sorry we can't accomadate that and if you had any issues with the price, that really should have been brought up before you ordered it to your unique specification. The total price for your vehicle is xxx, and if that's not agreeable....then you....can fuck right the hell off to the back of the line and enjoy waiting another 3-4 years because that's how long you'll be waiting to get a sticker deal on a car they only make 800 of per year! Cocksucker.


We know what he tried to pull. Figured that once he got the order locked in to his specific build he could leverage us into dropping the price if he threatened to back out. We called his bluff.


Yeah his deposit was down for a decade. But was never to lock in a price. Because we didn't know what it was going to cost or if was even going to even be made at all.. All it bought him was first rights of refusal when and if they ever made another NSX which he excercised. We just wish he didn't spec it out beforehand.

Berto knows this but maybe some of you other guys don't. In CA, a deposit is pretty worthless to the dealer. You can order a car, put down a deposit to do so, and just refuse it and get your money back at anytime before you sign a purchase agreement.
 
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I'd get a DBS if I wanted an expensive noise maker.
Ohhh DBS :drool. I'm sort of looking at a DB9 but can't justify it. I really want a V12 in the stable but missed my chance at a 550 maranello a couple of years ago. Now they're pushin $200K, no thanks.

Stan if you really do want a 996TT you should think about sooner rather than later. Those are under appreciated but starting to get the respect they deserve. I doubt the prices will stay where they are now.
 
We know what he tried to pull. Figured that once he got the order locked in to his specific build he could leverage us into dropping the price if he threatened to back out. We called his bluff.

Doh - thanks for the explanation, that makes sense.
 
Your wife has a car right?
I bought my wife an SUV and I have a 2 seater. If you got to take the kid somewhere they get a front seat. For a Porsche, you will need to buy the Porsche proprietary child seat for a whopping $1,500 (I did some Porsche shopping prior to coming to terms with the reality of ownership and bought a 350z). If you got to go somewhere with the wife and kid take her car. Everyone wins!

For the record, I was looking at Boxsters (yeah I know).
Bastard
:twofinger

Same difference :twofinger
 
F-Type is currently at the top of my short list for noise makers.

Me too. BTW, Honda did hold prices fixed with a deposit on the Honda Jet. And they took about a decade to get it to market too.
 
Me too. BTW, Honda did hold prices fixed with a deposit on the Honda Jet. And they took about a decade to get it to market too.

Yeah but that's buying direct from Honda isn't it? Not sure how it is in the aviation world, if there's franchised dealers or not.
 
Ohhh DBS :drool. I'm sort of looking at a DB9 but can't justify it. I really want a V12 in the stable but missed my chance at a 550 maranello a couple of years ago. Now they're pushin $200K, no thanks.

Stan if you really do want a 996TT you should think about sooner rather than later. Those are under appreciated but starting to get the respect they deserve. I doubt the prices will stay where they are now.

Bill, the 996TT has been in my eye for sometime. I know that they are commanding historically low pricing. Seems opposite for the 993TT you sly dog!

One thing for sure, if I get a 996TT, it will need to be seen by you first.:)
 
Oh no. It was mentioned up front and all along the process. I'll paraphrase the sequence of events...

Us-Hi Mr. xxxx. Good news! You can finally order your NSX. Your deposit has been with us for what seems like forever but the day has finally come. Just so you know that we will be asking a $50k premium over whatever MSRP your specification winds up at as this is a very limited release vehicle and you will have the very first one around here. Are you ready to move forward.

Him-Yes. Sounds good.

*some time later*

Us- Hi Mr. xxxx. Thank you for placing an order. We're just about set to "lock it in" and send it to the factory. Are there any changes you'd like to make? As it sits right now, your specification is blah blah blah with a MSRP of xxx, destination of xxx, and a $50k market adjustment. Everything still sounds good?

Him-Yup! Can't wait for it to come in!

*two days after the order is processed*

Him-I'm having second thoughts. And the price seems a bit high. I would like to just pay MSRP.

Us-I'm sorry we can't accomadate that and if you had any issues with the price, that really should have been brought up before you ordered it to your unique specification. The total price for your vehicle is xxx, and if that's not agreeable....then you....can fuck right the hell off to the back of the line and enjoy waiting another 3-4 years because that's how long you'll be waiting to get a sticker deal on a car they only make 800 of per year! Cocksucker.


We know what he tried to pull. Figured that once he got the order locked in to his specific build he could leverage us into dropping the price if he threatened to back out. We called his bluff.


Yeah his deposit was down for a decade. But was never to lock in a price. Because we didn't know what it was going to cost or if was even going to even be made at all.. All it bought him was first rights of refusal when and if they ever made another NSX which he excercised. We just wish he didn't spec it out beforehand.

Berto knows this but maybe some of you other guys don't. In CA, a deposit is pretty worthless to the dealer. You can order a car, put down a deposit to do so, and just refuse it and get your money back at anytime before you sign a purchase agreement.

Dude, you should have said that in your first post!:twofinger
 
That $50K still has room to move upward if it's an immediate delivery. Thinking that running at Mannheim Riverside might bring some big dollars.

There's a 918 (number 501) with 320 miles for about $1.5M. Was tempted to see if that would flip, but I just don't know enough about those cars. Bill called me a pussy...
 
That $50K still has room to move upward if it's an immediate delivery. Thinking that running at Mannheim Riverside might bring some big dollars.

There's a 918 (number 501) with 320 miles for about $1.5M. Was tempted to see if that would flip, but I just don't know enough about those cars. Bill called me a pussy...

Pretty sure my bank would tell me to go and jump off a cliff when I came in to negotiate that loan...
 
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