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“Blazing Saddles and it’s HORRORS”. Movie review.

bruceflinch said:
I agree discrimination should be called out. But the White Privileged thing is painting all people with a broad brush.
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White privilege is me walking into a car dealership and them rolling out the red carpet 0% interest finance plans and whatnot without knowing anything about me and my wife walking into the same dealership and getting, "are you sure you qualify/have enough money?"

That's a small example of white privilege, it is subtle. It is also hard to notice if you happen to be white.
 
HappyHighwayman said:
Bethany deleted the medium post like a BOSS.
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:laughing

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I know it's a dick move but I comment on her previously most recently article from May about her travels asking what happened to the Blazing Saddles article. Should have saved a copy.
 
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Blazing Saddles and Its Horrors
Bethany Hegener
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Feb 1, 2018 · 4 min read
A few days ago I naively made the decision to join in on watching Blazing Saddles directed by Mel Brooks. The only thing I knew about the movie prior to watching it was that it was rated number 5 among “the top funniest movies ever”. Shortly after the movie began I realized that this was not something I was going to enjoy, but it did give me plenty to say about this weeks media blog, so here we go.

Blazing Saddles is a classic western comedy that makes fun and jokes about literally almost everyone from members of the KKK, African Americans, Native Americans, Chinese, the Irish, women, the LGBTQ community, the Nazi party, Jews, and government officials. It wasn’t okay during 1974 and it definitely still isn’t okay now. My main question was “How can people even like this? How is this funny?” I do not know the answer to those questions still, but I do know that many people do in fact still LOVE the classic western comedy. Many claim, including Mel Brooks, that a movie like this could never be made today.

Mel Brooks is quoted saying “But never Blazing Saddles, because we have become stupidly politically correct, which is the death of comedy. It’s okay not to hurt feelings of various tribes and groups. However, it’s not good for comedy. Comedy has to walk a thin line, take risks. Comedy is the lecherous little elf whispering into the king’s ear, always telling the truth about human behavior.” (brb throwing up)

The movie mainly focuses around former railroad worker Bart (Cleavon Little) who becomes the first black sheriff of the town Rock Ridge, which is about to be destroyed to make space for a new railroad. At first, the townspeople dislike him due to him being black. As the story progresses he befriends Jim, a drunken gunfighter (Gene Wilder), defeats enemies of the townspeople, and sort of gains their affection.

Three minutes in the movie and the racist jokes begin. The entire time I was like “I can’t believe he just said that”. A few out of the many cringy remarks include

“Bart: “Mornin’, ma’am. And isn’t it a lovely mornin’?”
Elderly Woman: “Up yours, n****r.”

“ Hedley Lamarr: Qualifications?
Applicant: Rape, murder, arson, and rape.
Hedley Lamarr: You said rape twice.
Applicant: “I like rape.”

[Taggart spots Bart and Charlie on a hand-cart sinking into quicksand]
Taggart: Oh, shit. Quicksand!
[lassos the hand-cart and drags it but not the men out of the quicksand]
Taggart: Dang, that was lucky. Doggone near lost a four hundred dollar handcar.

Taggart: We’ll work up a Number 6 on ‘em.
Hedley Lamarr: [frowns] “Number 6”? I’m afraid I’m not familiar with that one.
Taggart: Well, that’s where we go a-ridin’ into town, a-whompin’ and a-whumpin’ every livin’ thing that moves within an inch of its life. Except the women folks, of course.
Hedley Lamarr: You spare the women?
Taggart: Naw, we rape the shit out of them at the Number Six Dance later on.
Hedley Lamarr: Marvelous!

Taggart: The surveyors say they may have run into some quicksand up ahead. Better check it out.
Lyle: Okay, I’ll send down a team of horses to check out the ground.
Taggart: *Horses*?
[hits Lyle’s head]
Taggart: We can’t afford to lose any horses, you dummy! Send over a couple of n****rs.

[a knock at the window; Bart gets up and sees the same woman who insulted him earlier]
Elderly Woman: Good evening, Sheriff. Sorry about the “Up yours, nigger”. I hope this apple pie will in some small way say thank you for your ingenuity and courage in defeating that horrible Mongo.
Bart: Well, uh… thank you, much obliged. Good night.
[Bart closes the window and smells the pie… but returns to the window when he hears another knock]
Elderly Woman: Of course, you’ll have the good taste not to mention that I spoke to you.
Bart: Of course.
Elderly Woman: Thank you.

Bart: I’m rapidly becoming a big underground success in this town.
Jim: See? In another twenty-five years, you’ll be able to shake their hands in broad daylight.

Olson Johnson: All right… we’ll give some land to the n****rs and the chinks. But we don’t want the Irish!

[after meeting black pioneers]
Indian Chief: [speaks Yiddish, then German, then in English] They darker than us! Woof!

Lyle: Now, come on, boys! Where’s your spirit? I don’t hear no singin’. When you was slaves, you sang like birds. Go on, how ‘bout a good ol’ ni****r work song?

Quotes from "Blazing Saddles"
to two members of the KKK, while pretending to capture Bart] Jim: Oh, boys! Lookee what I got heyuh.
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As you can clearly see through these quotes, this movie was scarring. Governor Lepetomane refers to Native Americans as “Little red devils”. One of the main women in this movie, Lil Van Schtupp (Madeline Kahn), is portrayed as stupid and talks with a lisp. In one scene she uses the classic “let me go slip into something more comfortable” quote that we talked about in class. Objectifying and sexualizing women are two key themes throughout this movie. The ways in which some races and women were talked about and treated throughout this film was appalling. At the end of the day I would give this a 0/10, do not recommend.

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Thank you Google Archives.
 
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stangmx13 said:
certain jokes in Blazing Saddles have become less funny for me over the years because old white women saying the N-word are still alive and too common.
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No offense but, really? Is it really 'common'? In society, rather than just in Huffpost and other libtard media outlets who go find video of some fringe redneck and post it like it's happening everywhere?

I dunno, but I'm a middle aged white guy, who spent almost his entire life around almost solely white people, including over a decade in one of the supposed hotbeds of racism, and I've heard exactly two white women use the N word in my 54 years, one of which would be about 110 if she were still alive today. It's just such a load of bullshit that this is a common occurrence these days.
 
That's a surprising perception, so much so that I can't imagine it's honest. I've heard it several times in my little foothill town an hour from Sac, and I'm not even talking about bad humor with friends, I'm talking about overhearing it from people saying it in public that I don't know. I've only been here six years. Don't even get me started on work trips outside of my bubble.
 
byke said:
That's a surprising perception, so much so that I can't imagine it's honest. I've heard it several times in my little foothill town an hour from Sac, and I'm not even talking about bad humor with friends, I'm talking about overhearing it from people saying it in public that I don't know. I've only been here six years. Don't even get me started on work trips outside of my bubble.
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In 15 years living all over Texas, I heard exactly one woman use the N word, and she was a young woman my age from a very small Texas town. I heard a handful of guys use it over the years, but it was still a very rare occurrence, and only two of those guys used it in true racist anger and both were harmless losers.

And I've never heard someone use the word during my decades of living in California. Ever.
 
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Shit I even heard it in Davis. They have problems with racist graffiti on campus every year, even makes the news every once in a while.
 
Archimedes said:
In 15 years living all over Texas, I heard exactly one woman use the N word, and she was a young woman my age from a very small Texas town. I heard a handful of guys use it over the years, but it was still a very rare occurrence, and only two of those guys used it in true racist anger and both were harmless losers.

And I've never heard someone use the word during my decades of living in California. Ever.
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Hmmm...better get those ears checked.

I was in San Antonio for less than 20 minutes when I first heard it, and the only place in Texas where I didn't hear it was Clear Lake.

Growing up in SF in a mostly black area, I constantly heard it, from people of all races.
 
Clearly if one haven't heard it in their social circle or experienced it personally then problem doesn't exist.
 
I discovered a few things about racism and the perception of racism working outside of my bubble, which is that they think there can be no racism if you're not stringing people up. The majority don't carry so much a strong and direct hate, they just want them to do their own thing over there and we'll stay over here and do our thing, heck we might even hire you for work if we can't find anyone else. And, it's a two-way street, so you'd want to be a little careful bringing your California brain to other parts of the country.
 
I'm curious though do people know what satire is? Or they just choose to interpret satire as literal and then get angry because they don't understand language?
 
HappyHighwayman said:
I'm curious though do people know what satire is? Or they just choose to interpret satire as literal and then get angry because they don't understand language?
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Poe's law.

From what I recall Machiavelli's The Prince was satirical work. And it was only until the 20th century was it considered "serious".

As per usual time, culture and contexts changes perception. It's not unusual or older generations to be blind to that fact especially if it calls outs their sensibilities
 
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Karbon said:
Poe's law.

From what I recall Machiavelli's The Prince was satirical work. And it was only until the 20th century was it considered "serious".

As per usual time, culture and contexts changes perception. It's not unusual or older generations to be blind to that fact especially if it calls outs their sensibilities
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Had to look it up but yeah Poe's Law is a thing.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/poes-law/

Poe’s Law is named after Nathan Poe, an agnostic user on the message board Christian Forums who posted in 2005: “POES LAW: Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is uttrerly [sic] impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone wont mistake for the genuine article.” In a thread debating creationism, Poe wrote this in response to a comment: “Good thing you included the winky. Otherwise people might think you are serious.”
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How is it possible I've ignored pretty much Mel Brooks (except from Space Balls log time ago) Hmmm .. maybe there is a reason.


But, I loved the Nazi-dancing GIF, so I may have to look that up (already found it on youtube.)

In general director/actors have the chance to be making self-serving movies, so their movies can end up boring.


UDRider said:
Clearly if one haven't heard it in their social circle or experienced it personally then problem doesn't exist.
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For example me, No, I haven't heard it much

And yes it may be due to social circles. It would be less than nice if someone would directly offending social circles "just because we haven't heard that word". :laughing

I've heard it from someone.. once, but if I describe it would just make things worse because someone may resemble this in this thread.
 
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