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2nd race bike?
- Thread starter ryanb
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Well, i'll give you guys my .02 on this question....
without a doubt its tough to ride 2 bikes and be competitive on both. I don't think it really matters what kind of bikes they are, if they are different in any way shape or form, its going to be tough to jump off one onto another. I had quite a few issues this year with this. I'd have back to back races and i would get off the 600 onto the 1000 and start the 2nd race and end up messing all my shifts and braking points up the first lap or so cause you've still got the 600 in your head. Also, as ALex stated, to keep up maintenance wise is also hard. I've been very lucky to have kenny, but even he struggled having 2 bikes at times.
To put all your focus on one bike instead of 2 will help results. That was one major thing people told me at the begining of the year, that i could be fast on 2 bikes, but i couldn't win on 2 bikes. I feel this statement is somewhat true. If i focused on one bike this year instead of 2 i just may have been able to aquire that #1 plate, who knows! (i doubt it, but anything could happen!)
So here it is in a nut shell, the +/-:
1 bike-------better focus, better results, championships more realistic
2 bikes----- Hard to focus, more track time, more costs, twice the chances, twice the glory when you do well.
Sorry about the rambling!!!
Chris
without a doubt its tough to ride 2 bikes and be competitive on both. I don't think it really matters what kind of bikes they are, if they are different in any way shape or form, its going to be tough to jump off one onto another. I had quite a few issues this year with this. I'd have back to back races and i would get off the 600 onto the 1000 and start the 2nd race and end up messing all my shifts and braking points up the first lap or so cause you've still got the 600 in your head. Also, as ALex stated, to keep up maintenance wise is also hard. I've been very lucky to have kenny, but even he struggled having 2 bikes at times.
To put all your focus on one bike instead of 2 will help results. That was one major thing people told me at the begining of the year, that i could be fast on 2 bikes, but i couldn't win on 2 bikes. I feel this statement is somewhat true. If i focused on one bike this year instead of 2 i just may have been able to aquire that #1 plate, who knows! (i doubt it, but anything could happen!)
So here it is in a nut shell, the +/-:
1 bike-------better focus, better results, championships more realistic
2 bikes----- Hard to focus, more track time, more costs, twice the chances, twice the glory when you do well.
Sorry about the rambling!!!
Chris
NSR250SP
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afm956 said:You sure that's not one of the infamous dbCom timing errors? The bikes that beat you were doing 1:52s.
Hmmm, why were you racing a Honda RS250 GP bike in 250 Superbike anyway?
no, as my on board timer confirmed the time... it was one lap, and that's the reason why I said I needed to string more of them together. I guess that's what happens when you get a tow from a faster bike.
as for your second question? I plead the 5th.
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I'm with Chris. The Maintenance alone is a major pain in the ass...
KimDN
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I raced a GSXR750 and a GSXR1000 this past season, in two classes each. I won't do it again! It was fun, but a lot of work and stressful at times.
Like Chris says, you'll focus better and do better on one type of bike.
Better to get two bikes that are the same. Next year, I'll probably have two GSXR1000s, one as a backup and for more practice time if I need it. If one is having problems, jump on the other.
What I've done the two previous years, was to "split" a backup bike with a buddy. Kept costs down, but still had a bike available for either of us.
GooGoo is right, Open Twin bike is a great way to go. Legal and competitive in 4 classes, Open Twins, F-1, 750 Superbike, and FP.
Hm, maybe I should get two 999s.....
Like Chris says, you'll focus better and do better on one type of bike.
Better to get two bikes that are the same. Next year, I'll probably have two GSXR1000s, one as a backup and for more practice time if I need it. If one is having problems, jump on the other.
What I've done the two previous years, was to "split" a backup bike with a buddy. Kept costs down, but still had a bike available for either of us.
GooGoo is right, Open Twin bike is a great way to go. Legal and competitive in 4 classes, Open Twins, F-1, 750 Superbike, and FP.
Hm, maybe I should get two 999s.....
joe
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two words, ryan: super moto.
Second bike, cheap, and you could start riding dirt if you wanted to.
Wait, am I projecting?
Second bike, cheap, and you could start riding dirt if you wanted to.
Wait, am I projecting?
MrCrash
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ryanb said:
If you don't have a truck yet and are still hitching rides to the track, I think so.
Keep in mind that schedule changes could bite you in the ass midway through the year. What if a change put both your races on the same grid, or back to back?
ryanb said:
Jeff's just suffering the effects of a bad trip. Used to be the only way to get competitive power out of a Duc was to jam all sorts of trik shit into it, pour rocket fuel in, and then run the bitch with two fingers shadowing the clutch lever. Been there, done that. I feel your pain, Jeff.
Enter, the Testastretta. Today's world is very different. Our first weekend at Infineon was on a totally stock 998 street motor. That thing ran.
The 999R is stock too, minus the clutch, wheels, and Home Depot chain guard
Lohmeyer
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If running two bikes is what you want to do because you're a moto-head, go for it. It'll be work, but you won't regret the experience.
On the work end, even two identical bikes increases the work load a lot. Because I'm (still) trying to win a championship, I have a backup bike. I spent most of last season trying to get both bikes ready to race. Something always prevented that. Finally, this year, both were race worthy, but I still had major suspension differences between them. It wasn't until the last couple races that I started to get them equal. Just in time too because both race weekends, I ended up having to race on the backup bike after problems with the primary bike. Having a backup saved me from additional DNF's in my races.
I now have three race bikes, though. I picked up an older GSXR1000 in addition to my two VFR400's. I would like to race the 1000, but chances are, it will be too much of a distraction. Maintaining them, teching them, setting them up every morning, as well as the difference in riding them takes a lot out of the race day, especially when learning a new bike. So, I'll race it only if I can do so without it interfering with my 450SB and FIV events, probably after I've had it to several track days.
Ryan, if you want to race a 2nd bike in 2006, I would suggest you get it by mid 2005 and start learning the bike at track days. That way it won't distract you from racing the SV, but then in 2006, you'll probably be comfortable on both bikes, and it will be much easier.
On the work end, even two identical bikes increases the work load a lot. Because I'm (still) trying to win a championship, I have a backup bike. I spent most of last season trying to get both bikes ready to race. Something always prevented that. Finally, this year, both were race worthy, but I still had major suspension differences between them. It wasn't until the last couple races that I started to get them equal. Just in time too because both race weekends, I ended up having to race on the backup bike after problems with the primary bike. Having a backup saved me from additional DNF's in my races.
I now have three race bikes, though. I picked up an older GSXR1000 in addition to my two VFR400's. I would like to race the 1000, but chances are, it will be too much of a distraction. Maintaining them, teching them, setting them up every morning, as well as the difference in riding them takes a lot out of the race day, especially when learning a new bike. So, I'll race it only if I can do so without it interfering with my 450SB and FIV events, probably after I've had it to several track days.
Ryan, if you want to race a 2nd bike in 2006, I would suggest you get it by mid 2005 and start learning the bike at track days. That way it won't distract you from racing the SV, but then in 2006, you'll probably be comfortable on both bikes, and it will be much easier.
christofu
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I'm toying with the idea of a 2nd bike, too. Perhaps an RS125 to go alongside my RS125 chassised CRF450 powered singles bike. Two vastly different bikes but with the same chassis. How much can I screw myself up? 
Then, along with F-Singles and F-IV I could add F-III and F-II. If I only had a bike for F-I I could be in F-I through IV
Or maybe a 750. Or maybe I should just continue trying to figure out how to ride my current bike.
Anyone want to swap an RS125 for my old singles bike? (Tigcraft (TZ250-like) chassis, Rotax engine). Puhleeeeeze?
Then, along with F-Singles and F-IV I could add F-III and F-II. If I only had a bike for F-I I could be in F-I through IV
Or maybe a 750. Or maybe I should just continue trying to figure out how to ride my current bike.
Anyone want to swap an RS125 for my old singles bike? (Tigcraft (TZ250-like) chassis, Rotax engine). Puhleeeeeze?
Enter, the Testastretta. Today's world is very different. Our first weekend at Infineon was on a totally stock 998 street motor. That thing ran.
The 999R is stock too, minus the clutch, wheels, and Home Depot chain guard
thanks to competition not been serious about big twin/dont know how to build big twin.
TWF said:thanks to competition not been serious about big twin/dont know how to build big twin.
You are right about my building bikes. I don't know squat if it doesn't respond to a claw hammer very well.
But as for competition in big twins not being serious, I think Alex and Ken would disagree.
Open Twins next year will not be what it was this year. Bank on it.
Oh................Sorry Zoran. I'm still new to this reading thing.
I'm kind of surprised nobody has got you to build up a strong SV 1000 yet. Longs wasn't so bad, and they say it was totally stock. Maybe next year? Everyone already knows you bulid the best middle twin, right?
I'm kind of surprised nobody has got you to build up a strong SV 1000 yet. Longs wasn't so bad, and they say it was totally stock. Maybe next year? Everyone already knows you bulid the best middle twin, right?
Manu ®
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I don't agree. I think the RC51 twin is just as good as the Ducati's. Matter of fact, for a Ducati to have similar performance with the RC, you need to spend almost twice as much.
JnglstTICAL
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Manu ® said:
Yeah, but in the end, its still a Honda...
Think about how many chicks the DUC will pull.....have you seen GoGo's :boobies 
dgrace
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Manu ® said:
BS. The only RC's that consistently beat Duc's are factory bikes, and they rev to 16k. Stock vs stock, a TLR out-HP's an RC, but neither of them makes power like the 999. Wanna prove me wrong? You know what class to sign up for next year.
dave