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Accident scene management Part 1 and 2 (long)

It is a really great idea for everyone to get CPR or First-Aid certified, you wouldn't believe how many people I have seen in my career that actually use their skills to save another one's life. Also, how many of us ride with friends or in groups? If we all, or at least some in the group get certified and we see someone go down, it's alot easier to handle the patient in a two person-to- patient situation. One can be doing compressions while the other one is giving rescue breaths.
 
wow, thats alot to remember! all good points though.

I hve been in this biz for 14 yrs, (the last 7 on a helicopter) so I think I am qualified to make two quick comments.

1) Keep it simple. All these points made are great, but alot of them go out the window when you are stressed!! Keep yourself safe (don't add another body to be rescued), notify some professional help, use your common sense and render some aid. (taking a course is great help). (CPR even without respirations has been shown to help.!!)

2)There is something called the Good Samaritan Act, which states:
" A person who renders emergency medical services or aid to an ill, injured or unconscious person, at the immediate scene of an accident or emergency that has caused the illness, injury or unconsciousness, is not liable for damages for injury to or death of that person caused by the person's act or omission in rendering the medical services or aid unless that person is grossly negligent."

Someone previously stated to be prepared to be sued- or something like that. which is grossly wrong!! And I would hate to see people shy away from trying to help a victim for fear of being sued.
I believe the good Samaritan act has an unbeaten record when invoked.

anyway, good riding!!
 
Awesome post.

Instead of giving out detailed instructions, we should get certified. Because if you don't, you can get in trouble for doing something wrong. It can be fatal.

Doc Wong is right. At least we should secure the accident scene, cover the corners and all.
 
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Firefighter/Paramedic here too...
Great job, most of the best info right out of the EMT Scene management and basic first aid book... The only thing I can say as a motorcyclist and a Emergency responder is that with out a doubt the most dangerous place we work is on the roadway/Freeway... The closest i've ever come to getting killed at work has been working accidents on the road... I feel a lot safer in a house on fire then i do working the freeway at night... So be very careful, Traffic around an accident is VERY unpredictable...
I also wouldn't worry too much about doing the "wrong thing", there are law's in place that will protect the "lay rescuer" as long as you don't do anything completely crazy and try to hurt the guy/girl... keep the person as still as possible. Control any bleeding and assess their mental status every few minutes by simply talking to them. Without a bunch of "medic equipment" thats all an off duty Paramedic could and would be able to do too...
Great Job!!
 
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Great information thanks for posting!
thumbs up for looking out for fellow riders
 
Funny, I was just talking about this thread last night with Hoax
 
odyss3y said:
i used what i remembered from this post to help with an accident that i helped with this weekend.
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Thanks for letting me know... I posted this along time ago and I hoped it would help some people
 
That was great information surely needed in a accident situiation !! Believe me it takes like 45 minutes for most help to get to yo in the twisties i should know I just went down this weekend ve. a car and I was fortunate I came out with just road rash it could have been worse and I hope the BARFers I was with had read this if it had been worse.

Thank you

Dana
 
This post should still by Sticky'd to the top!!!

Can one of the moderators re-sticky it?
 
thanks Climber

I was looking for this thread last week

and now ... ewwww, it's sticky again
 
Good post. Thank you.

I feel so much more prepared with all that good info.

And thanks for getting me thinking about getting re-certified in CPR.
 
Great info, but a lil too much for someone to remember who's not in the "field". In my opinion I think it would be best to have control over the scene/scene saftey, C-spine (do not remove helmet unless impeding airway managment as you have mentioned and remove it properly), and of course ABC's.
 
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The most important things are:

Scene safety

ABC

Call for help

C-spine

Leave the helmet on unless the rider is not breathing

And learn the proper way to remove a helmet should it become necessary.
 
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Great thread to bump, considering recent events. Thank goodness.

Doc Wong has a CPR class coming up on April 12th. $45 for class AND certification, or just $35 for the info without a paper certification. PLEASE GO!
 
Drgnkne said:
Hey All, I saw this on the R6 Forum and thought it would be good to share with the Barf group.. I have personally witnessed 2 Motorcycle Fatalies (both on Hwy 9) and 10+ motorcycle Non Fatalies. We should all have this knowledge in the back of our minds, that way when and if the time comes we can step in to help.. Paul
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Thanks very much, this is excellent from my humble view.
 
scout said:
Thanks very much, this is excellent from my humble view.
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Scout- I didn't want to muck up the other thread. But a lot of the medical/cpr discussions have taken place on this thread.

To anyone who hasn't seen this thread before: DO NOT try anything without having the proper training and practice.

Get trained.:thumbup
 
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