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Any (4-wheel) Overland types in here?

I just don't like the weights of those roof tents. I've put myself into a few spots where I can imagine that 100-200# way up high, might have put me belly up. That, and I've never really been a tent person anyway. I like the benefits of hard sides, particularly when it comes to wind and rain.

With a two door wrangler though, you don't really have the option of sleeping inside without some real effort.
 
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So many gems in that area.

My buddy took this picture out there.

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I haven't seen a night sky like that in years. I need to do something about that.
 
Charles R said:
I just don't like the weights of those roof tents. I've put myself into a few spots where I can imagine that 100-200# way up high, might have put me belly up. That, and I've never really been a tent person anyway. I like the benefits of hard sides, particularly when it comes to wind and rain.

With a two door wrangler though, you don't really have the option of sleeping inside without some real effort.
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I agree if talking about the overhang/cantilever types, but what about the straight rooftop models like the 4th pic in post #208? I really dig that style *if* sleeping inside isn't an option.
 
That's about $5500 more than I thought it'd cost. I'll sell you any two of our three vehicles for less than that. :laughing
 
byke said:
That's about $5500 more than I thought it'd cost. I'll sell you any two of our three vehicles for less than that. :laughing
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Yea that's a crapload of money. They seem to be doing well though, they're based in Benicia, no shortage of folks with tech money giving them business I guess.

Talk about money, check out some of the rigs from Overland Expo East.

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What's a good resource for understanding the basics of this sort of stuff? Not sure I'm interested in going full tilt, but likely going to be picking up a 4runner or something of the like as a second vehicle. Certainly would be fun to get into the dirt a bit. Spent plenty of time off road on motorcycles, so I've got some idea of how it all work. I would still like to sift through the bullshit and find some good websites/youtube channels that aren't just selling anything that a mfg will give them for free as the "best product ever". See enough of that with motorcycling and social media "influencers", no self respect, no experience and no way they should be an authority on anything.

As I search around for overland stuff, a lot of it centred around the social media influencers, or overpriced bullshit you sell to an R1200GS stereotype.
 
There is an offroad club in the south bay that does "intro to offroading" classes at Hollister hills from time to time. Of course, I've never done it, and can't remember the name of the club. You're welcome?
 
auntiebling said:
There is an offroad club in the south bay that does "intro to offroading" classes at Hollister hills from time to time. Of course, I've never done it, and can't remember the name of the club. You're welcome?
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Esprit de Four!

https://espritdefour.club/

We did their class when I got my Rubicon. It was great, and it really gave me a good foundation for having the confidence to go out on my own. Also, up until that point Eric was all "It's just a car, Tami. It's not a fuckin' hobby, ok?" He'd heave a heavy sigh every time a new off-road catalogue would show up in the mailbox. As we were pulling out of the OHV area after the class he said "I guess the first thing we should do is get ourselves some onboard air." I was so stoked! That stoke returns every time he says "This thing is badass!" We've both agreed we'll never be without one ever again. :laughing



HobbyChick
 
Coming at this from a different angle, has anyone ever built a "redneck toy hauler"? My rooftop tent on a trailer is cool, but the Land Rover's 66hp doesn't cut it. I have a 30' flat bed bumper pull trailer, and I just bought an in-bed camper. I plan to mount the camper to the flatbed, which gives me self contained living quarters and a 20' trailer deck. I see most of these set ups done on gooseneck trailers. My service bed doesn't allow a gooseneck hitch, so bumper pull it is. Plus I already have the trailer.
 
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Coming at this from a different angle, has anyone ever built a "redneck toy hauler"? My rooftop tent on a trailer is cool, but the Land Rover's 66hp doesn't cut it. I have a 30' flat bed bumper pull trailer, and I just bought an in-bed camper. I plan to mount the camper to the flatbed, which gives me self contained living quarters and a 20' trailer deck. I see most of these set ups done on gooseneck trailers. My service bed doesn't allow a gooseneck hitch, so bumper pull it is. Plus I already have the trailer.
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I find it a little hilarious, you ask for input here give what you build for fun!
Do you have enough width, in other words is the camper short enough, to Mount the camper sideways so the rear door is unlikely to be blocked? If you mount a service e bed to the trailer then put the camper in the bed you have some sweet built in storage for little effort.
 
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As I search around for overland stuff, a lot of it centred around the social media influencers, or overpriced bullshit you sell to an R1200GS stereotype.
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Oh man, it's hard to get through all the fluff that comes with "overlanding". That's part of the reason why there's a lot of hate that comes with that word. It's very much a social-media-driven platform as it's not exactly a mainstream hobby, so a lot of the influence comes from social media like YouTube or Instagram.

Folks like Expedition Overland for example put out some high quality content, but you can tell they're very much shills for their sponsors, but who can blame them.

The only way to cut through the fluff is to dive deep into the forums and see what other enthusiasts (that are not social-media shills) are doing. Here's a few of my favorites.

https://americanadventurist.com/forum

https://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/

https://www.overlandbound.com/forums/

https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding
 
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Jalopyshoppe said:
Coming at this from a different angle, has anyone ever built a "redneck toy hauler"? My rooftop tent on a trailer is cool, but the Land Rover's 66hp doesn't cut it. I have a 30' flat bed bumper pull trailer, and I just bought an in-bed camper. I plan to mount the camper to the flatbed, which gives me self contained living quarters and a 20' trailer deck. I see most of these set ups done on gooseneck trailers. My service bed doesn't allow a gooseneck hitch, so bumper pull it is. Plus I already have the trailer.
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I've seen a coupe versions of what you're describing. One of my favorite ones didn't use a flatbed trailer though. They mounted a slide-in camper backwards onto a Fuso chassis.

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The stories of their vehicle choices is interesting

I've been eyeing the idea myself, as i think i want to build a dedicated crawler.
 
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....but wouldn't the (only) door be flush against the back of the cab?
 
Not flush. See that tall black locker right behind the cab? That's how far back the camper fits.

They have expanded metal flooring between the cab and camper, and use that area as an entryway, as well as a shower area.
 
As far as practicality, the most interesting trailer mount camper I've seen was a tent trailer removed from its original trailer frame, then mounted transversely on a flatbed. I think they had some sort of rock crawler or razr behind it. It still had a pretty low profile going down the road.
 
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Jalopyshoppe said:
Coming at this from a different angle, has anyone ever built a "redneck toy hauler"? My rooftop tent on a trailer is cool, but the Land Rover's 66hp doesn't cut it. I have a 30' flat bed bumper pull trailer, and I just bought an in-bed camper. I plan to mount the camper to the flatbed, which gives me self contained living quarters and a 20' trailer deck. I see most of these set ups done on gooseneck trailers. My service bed doesn't allow a gooseneck hitch, so bumper pull it is. Plus I already have the trailer.
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What weight is your bumper pull hitch rated to pull?
Are you concerned with articulation limits of bumper pull versus gooseneck?
Are you concerned with the overall length of tow vehicle plus bumper pull trailer?

Edit: Also, weight distribution on bumper pull is more impactful than with gooseneck or 5th wheel.
 
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