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Inkman said:
PSA!!!!!!

If you are going to the Cow Palace show this saturday a.m., STAY THE FUCK OUTTA MY WAY!!!!! I will be getting my reloads at Miwall, so keep aside you fools.

That is all.

Al
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:hand

you can get in line right behind me, :twofinger
 
Inkman said:
PSA!!!!!!

If you are going to the Cow Palace show this saturday a.m., STAY THE FUCK OUTTA MY WAY!!!!! I will be getting my reloads at Miwall, so keep aside you fools.

That is all.

Al
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2nsane said:
:hand

you can get in line right behind me, :twofinger
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Only after I finish my shopping.:p
I'll be there at 9AM. Look me up, I'll be wearing Infidel cap.:teeth
 
Inkman said:
PSA!!!!!!

If you are going to the Cow Palace show this saturday a.m., STAY THE FUCK OUTTA MY WAY!!!!! I will be getting my reloads at Miwall, so keep aside you fools.

That is all.

Al
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You're just lucky I don't hit the shows anymore Al, you know you can't keep up. :laughing
 
sn0rky said:
can somebody recommend me a 6-7shooter revolver; in 38special or .357 around $250-$350.

i dont know why, but i want to add a revolver to the collection
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You'll be looking for a Taurus of some sort, and you'll have to find it on the used market. So you'll pretty much have to grab whatever you can find.

On an unrelated note, the Democrats are ringing in 2009 with a bang!

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

H.R.45
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)
Beginning
January 6, 2009

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS AND PURPOSES.

SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.

TITLE I--LICENSING

SEC. 101. LICENSING REQUIREMENT.

SEC. 102. APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.

SEC. 103. ISSUANCE OF LICENSE.

SEC. 104. RENEWAL OF LICENSE.

SEC. 105. REVOCATION OF LICENSE.

TITLE II--RECORD OF SALE OR TRANSFER

SEC. 201. SALE OR TRANSFER REQUIREMENTS FOR QUALIFYING FIREARMS.

SEC. 202. FIREARM RECORDS.

TITLE III--ADDITIONAL PROHIBITIONS

SEC. 301. UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIREMENT.

SEC. 302. FAILURE TO MAINTAIN OR PERMIT INSPECTION OF RECORDS.

SEC. 303. FAILURE TO REPORT LOSS OR THEFT OF FIREARM.

SEC. 304. FAILURE TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS.

SEC. 305. CHILD ACCESS PREVENTION.

TITLE IV--ENFORCEMENT

SEC. 401. CRIMINAL PENALTIES.

SEC. 402. REGULATIONS.

SEC. 403. INSPECTIONS.

SEC. 404. ORDERS.

SEC. 405. INJUNCTIVE ENFORCEMENT.

TITLE V--FIREARM INJURY INFORMATION AND RESEARCH

SEC. 501. DUTIES OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

TITLE VI--EFFECT ON STATE LAW

SEC. 601. EFFECT ON STATE LAW.

SEC. 602. CERTIFICATION OF STATE FIREARM LICENSING SYSTEMS AND STATE FIREARM RECORD OF SALE SYSTEMS.

TITLE VII--RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER LAW

SEC. 701. SUBORDINATION TO ARMS EXPORT CONTROL ACT.

TITLE VIII--INAPPLICABILITY

SEC. 801. INAPPLICABILITY TO GOVERNMENTAL AUTHORITIES.

TITLE IX--EFFECTIVE DATE

SEC. 901. EFFECTIVE DATE OF AMENDMENTS.
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More info:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2163608/posts

HR 45, gun licensing act, 1/6/09

To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes. Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)

Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.

Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.

Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.

Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.

Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.

Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.
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I'd never heard of Blair Holt, so I did some research. Turns out, this whole episode is yet another textbook Proof Of Example that gun control doesn't work, and is being used as an excuse for more gun control.

Michael “Mario” Pace, 16, is charged with one count of murder and five counts of attempted murder in the Thursday shooting that claimed the life of Julian High School student Blair Holt, 16, who was not the intended target. Facing identical charges is 15-year-old Kevin Jones, who sources said gave Pace the gun. Jones knew Pace wanted to use the weapon to try to kill someone Pace had argued with on an almost “daily basis,” possibly over a girl, sources said
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Bond said that one suspect was the gunman and the other was an accomplice in the Thursday attack, which police have said was gang-related. The gunman boarded the bus, quickly opened fire and then fled.

Police charged the suspected shooter, who was recently expelled from the high school, on Sunday morning. His teenage accomplice was arrested and charged Saturday after implicating himself during questioning, Bond said.
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Let's start with Illinois:

http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/p/gunlaws_il.htm

Handguns

* Permit to purchase handgun? FOID Required.*

* Registration of handguns? No.**

* Licensing of owners of handguns? FOID Required.*

* Permit to carry handguns? No***

* Subject to municipal control. Handguns have been banned in some municipalities.

** Chicago requires registration of all firearms.

*** Carrying a concealed weapon is prohibited entirely. A FOID is required to transport a handgun. See "Carrying."
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I'd bet Kevin Jones didn't have a FOID, and he is also not 21 years old, which is the minimum age to purchase a handgun. Michael “Mario” Pace is also under 21, and did not have a FOID.

Neither of them have concealed carry licenses either.

A FOID requirement is:

Is over 21 years of age. If under 21, he must have the written consent of his parent or guardian. In such case, the guardian himself must not be ineligible for a FOID, and the applicant must never have been convicted of a misdemeanor or adjudged a delinquent.
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I doubt they had written consent from a parent or guardian -- if they even have parents/guardians -- and being gang members recently expelled from school, are probably delinquents, too.

Also in Illinois law:

Possession

* It is unlawful to possess any firearm or ammunition without a valid FOID.

* It is unlawful for any person under the age of 18 to possess a handgun, or concealable firearm.

* It is unlawful for any person to possess any firearm with intent to use it unlawfully against another.
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3 more laws broken...

Also, it seems that handguns are completely banned in Chicago unless you owned & registered your handgun at the time when the ban went into place, which I doubt these two cretins did...

So, the idiot in Congress wants to implement nationwide exactly the laws that did not prevent this crime. I suppose we can expect the Federal law to fail to prevent these crimes on a nationwide scale! Hurrah for gun control! Disarming non-criminals since FOREVER!
 
It also strikes me as odd that the Blair Holt's killers are only being charged with counts of murder, and NO WEAPONS CHARGES. :confused
 
Gobment first and foremost concern is to protect criminals from law abiding citizens.
 
Inkman said:
PSA!!!!!!

If you are going to the Cow Palace show this saturday a.m., STAY THE FUCK OUTTA MY WAY!!!!! I will be getting my reloads at Miwall, so keep aside you fools.

That is all.

Al
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I want to buy everything in 9mm, 45 ACP, 223 and 308, just in spite.

Any other calibers I should add to the list? :twofinger
 
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JUST GOT ORDERS

I am out of here on the 24th. Going to YorkTown VA. for a month of Small Arms instructor training:thumbup
 
sn0rky said:
can somebody recommend me a 6-7shooter revolver; in 38special or .357 around $250-$350.

i dont know why, but i want to add a revolver to the collection
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I paid $299 for a Ruger SP101 .357-38sp. Granted it's not a 6 shoot, only 5, but takes only a few seconds to reload.
 
sn0rky said:
where do they sell them for $299? and are they instock at the moment?
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My bad, should of mentioned that it was used. If you call less that 20 rounds shot used.:teeth
So, deals are out there.
 
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I'm expecting it to get pretty crazy. It's the last gun show before the inauguration and there's too many paranoid people.
 
2nsane said:
Hey Reloaders could you recommend a good reloading book would ya:thumbup
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If you're new to the game the ABCs Of Reloading (Hornady) is a good place to start. Beyond that, you can go broke buying each bullet / powder manufacturer's handbooks. Be advised that they change every year, but once you work up a load you're comfortable with that needn't matter.

Didja get yer Dillon yet? :teeth:teeth
 
Ratters said:
You're just lucky I don't hit the shows anymore Al, you know you can't keep up. :laughing
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I just couldn't stand camping out with you the nite before the show for ammo. You are right though....always hated having to await the return of the handcarts you were wheeling in and out at Vallejo.

Al
 
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