Draggin Jeans ?

[TEAMWORK]

Guess you don't ride much in the Valleys. Heatstroke would get you before the crash.

If heat is a concern, go for the swamp cooler effect (evaporative cooling). Soak your undershirt in water, put it on, then put on your suit. It will suck heat from your body as it dries (as the water evaporates), cooling you. Same principle as sweating, just cranked way up.

And as temps get really hot, i.e. 100+, you actually are worse off going with mesh or without gear -- exposing your skin to air hotter than your body will just heat your body up more. Better off being closed up in gear with a wet shirt under there, insulated from the extreme heat. Some folks who've done dessert crossings and such in really hot weather advocate filling your pockets with ice, which will melt and keep cooling you. An Aerostich comes in handy here.

 

[Kornholio]

Those are sweet Thanks for the link guys, will be ordering some.

 

[jimboFosho]

A good rule to go(live) by: If its too hot for gear, its too hot to ride.
I am perfectly happy soaking through my shirt with sweat but if its really too hot I would wait for it too cool off or find a different way to cool down.

 

[Jwind]

Was going to buy a pair of Draggin jeans awhile back. But decided on textile in the end. Mainly because I could wear these to work, they convert into shorts for after you get off the bike, and looks like normal pants for everything else. Got some Dainese knee guards from Cycle Gear, and some under armor. Been an awesome set up so far.

Motorcyclegear still have the pants I bought on clearance too.

http://www.motorcyclegear.com/stree...resistant_textile_cargo_motorcycle_pants.html

 

[Gnarly Cranium]

Crashed on Embarcadero in draggin jeans. Armor shifted on impact, took a hit to the kneecap on asphalt. Took about six months before the twinges of pain went away. The Kevlar held, so I had no rash, but it would have been very nice to have armor between me and the road.

Word of warning-- the pants wear out. I just lent my old (1.5yr maybe?) draggin jeans to a passenger recently, and by the end of the evening the denim seams had split wide open on him in multiple places, I guess they fit tighter on him than me and I hadn't realized the denim was so worn. It just gave out.

These days I have rev'it pants that are partly leather and partly mesh, and I'm wondering if the mesh was an okay call-- next time, more leather.

 

[enki]

If heat is a concern, go for the swamp cooler effect (evaporative cooling). Soak your undershirt in water, put it on, then put on your suit. It will suck heat from your body as it dries (as the water evaporates), cooling you. Same principle as sweating, just cranked way up.

And as temps get really hot, i.e. 100+, you actually are worse off going with mesh or without gear -- exposing your skin to air hotter than your body will just heat your body up more. Better off being closed up in gear with a wet shirt under there, insulated from the extreme heat. Some folks who've done dessert crossings and such in really hot weather advocate filling your pockets with ice, which will melt and keep cooling you. An Aerostich comes in handy here.

Been there. Done that. Sorry, don't agree. Respectfully.

 

[ST Guy]

Better than just wearing jeans.

Yes. But not by much. I've always thought that those jeans and others like them were a half-ass solution that's deeply rooted in making a fashion statement. If you only slide on the reinforced part, yea they're better then regular jeans. But what if you don't?

Ya pays yer money and takes yer chances.

 

[Gixxergirl1000]

Guess you don't ride much in the Valleys. Heatstroke would get you before the crash.

Ninja please! I live in Livermore (where it gets hot as hell)... I ride every weekend unless I'm racing... I don't care if it's triple digits, I'm out in my full leathers. Hell, my first race weekend it was 108 degrees in the early afternoon. I did my practice sessions, I raced, and was nowhere near heatstroke. Was out riding the last time we had triple digit temps... kept myself hydrated, and had no issues whatsoever. And it's not like I'm in shape or anything. But the leather insulates against the heat, and I made sure to drink quite a bit of water and gatorade. Is it as much fun as riding in temps in the low 80's? Of course not... but I love riding, and I'm not willing to give up a day's ride just because I'm going to sweat.

January 1st, raining like a motherfucker. Me- on the 1125, naked as the day I was born, with boots gloves and a helmet. And there was a railroad tracks in there somewhere. Needless to say I lost the front going about 25-30 mph.

Was like goin down a asphalt slip n slide. I got up, streaked. Felt fine, picked up the bike, started it, rode off.

Afterwords I asked for a dark towel so the blood wouldent show. Put my clothes on, and rode home 35 miles like a boss.

OK, so you did get injured then... and why you decided you needed to go riding in the rain sans clothing must be a direct result of testosterone poisoning...

 

[ST Guy]

yeah I've been thinking of getting some sort of padded jeans...but then again, i wonder if it'll be smarter to just wait a little longer and save up for full 1-pc leathers instead...

Or a quality one or two piece textile suit.

 

[davidji]

As others have pointed out, it's good to wear separate knee armor under the reinforced motorcycle jeans.

With built in armor, I'd at least want to try it on before I'd choose it. Draggin offers "smart" Sas-tec armor as an option, and I think that's really good stuff (unless it's freezing, which makes it pretty hard), but I'd want to be confident it was secure, else strap-on armor is better. And I'd want to make sure it didn't make the jeans hang wrong, else why not just wear regular motorcycle pants?

I wear Knox knee armor under my moto jeans. I use the long size, not based on leg length, but for both knee & shin protection, the short ones are knee only. I chose Knox for the combination of low bulk, CE rating, and a strap above the knee.

FWIW there are two separate companies making "Draggin Jeans", one in the USA and one in Australia. Not all of reviews, etc that you read online will be about the same company's jeans. The American company has a couple of local dealers so they should be easiest to try & buy.
USA: http://www.dragginjeans.com/
OZ: http://www.dragginjeans.net/

 

[kaczx6r]

So Connie, your in full leathers all the time?
Heck I can do it LOL

 

[Kornholio]

If you're never going to spend more than an hour or two in full leathers, knock yourself out. You could probably handle it. Then again, those that think they live where it's hot need to check the records for their town. Shit, Livermore doesn't even get as hot as people seem to think it does. I've probably ran my A/C maybe three times since I've moved here. 110 when riding on black top is not comfortable in leathers. I don't give a shit who you are. The only reprieve would be if you're stopping once an hour or so to shade yourself and cool down. Still, your skin has to breathe in order for your body to cool itself off like it is designed to do. Leathers, perforated or not, will not allow your skin to breathe as well because they're too close fitting. If you're not comfortable while riding, that's a problem. Is it really worth being uncomfortable just so you can ride? Are you really in your prime riding condition when you're like that?

Again, if you people want to pretend you understand it better than generations of folks that live in actual desert conditions, go right ahead. How often do you see Middle Eastern people falling out due to heat exhaustion? Seriously, those fuckers lay new blacktop when it's 130 outside and the sun is directly overhead in the middle of July. You can't even begin to imagine what it's like to stand on a flight line with your boots sinking into the black tarmac.

 

[silenthavoc]

As others have pointed out, it's good to wear separate knee armor under the reinforced motorcycle jeans.

With built in armor, I'd at least want to try it on before I'd choose it. Draggin offers "smart" Sas-tec armor as an option, and I think that's really good stuff (unless it's freezing, which makes it pretty hard), but I'd want to be confident it was secure, else strap-on armor is better. And I'd want to make sure it didn't make the jeans hang wrong, else why not just wear regular motorcycle pants?

I wear Knox knee armor under my moto jeans. I use the long size, not based on leg length, but for both knee & shin protection, the short ones are knee only. I chose Knox for the combination of low bulk, CE rating, and a strap above the knee.

FWIW there are two separate companies making "Draggin Jeans", one in the USA and one in Australia. Not all of reviews, etc that you read online will be about the same company's jeans. The American company has a couple of local dealers so they should be easiest to try & buy.
USA: http://www.dragginjeans.com/
OZ: http://www.dragginjeans.net/

Im curious does the knox armors slide down when you walk?

 

[Kurosaki]

Damn ok.... I think you all convinced me to just put on my 1pc leathers and just deal with the heat,they are perforated but still hot as hell.

There are other options to protect yourself other than 1 piece leathers.

 

[davidji]

Im curious does the knox armors slide down when you walk?

No, and I've had it on for hours while doing off-the-bike stuff. Fit is a personal thing though and YMMV.

 

[kaczx6r]

I know

There are other options to protect yourself other than 1 piece leathers.

I understand But my delima is I have a hard time finding gear to fit my fat a$$
I have a cheap set of Tilt 1pc Leathers I figure if I'm going to crash and the paramedics cut them off I will not cry. Latley I have just been in Jeans and a Cortech Jacket, I'm trying not to invest in a shitload of gear..untill I can get to the gym on a regular basis and lose the weight..I just need my ribs to heal (don't ask)

 

[silenthavoc]

No, and I've had it on for hours while doing off-the-bike stuff. Fit is a personal thing though and YMMV.

Great, Ill probably order those, might get the short ones though. Have you wear the long one with riding boots? I'm afraid they might conflict with my a* smx-5.

 

[Razel]

I understand But my delima is I have a hard time finding gear to fit my fat a$$
I have a cheap set of Tilt 1pc Leathers I figure if I'm going to crash and the paramedics cut them off I will not cry. Latley I have just been in Jeans and a Cortech Jacket, I'm trying not to invest in a shitload of gear..untill I can get to the gym on a regular basis and lose the weight..I just need my ribs to heal (don't ask)

Buy for your current size. Just do it. If you're going to drop weight, alterations are easy if you're taking things in. Everything I have is two-piece textile, except for the one-piece leather for those infrequent track days. All easily altered when that day (if ever) comes.

 

[davidji]

Great, Ill probably order those, might get the short ones though. Have you wear the long one with riding boots? I'm afraid they might conflict with my a* smx-5.

I wear 'em with boots, but not as tall as those. Couldn't tell you which is best, but I'd probably get long anyway, and tuck them in the boot if they overlap, like in the comment here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ykxD2FNYdc

 

[Gixxergirl1000]

So Connie, your in full leathers all the time?
Heck I can do it LOL

Yes. They're not vented, either. And yeah- sometimes it gets really warm... but in all seriousness, when I'm focused on corners (whether on track or back roads) I really don't feel the heat. I don't do that sport touring stuff, totally not my gig, so I don't spend hours slabbing it... that's to be avoided at all costs in my world, so I ride whatever loop I'm on, stop to hydrate, and then go do another loop or hit another section of road.
My first track day ever was at Buttonwillow in August. Temperature was just under 100 degrees. My boyfriend at the time kept telling me not to worry about it. I was dubious, because I don't deal with the heat very well.
I remember being out on the track, coming down the front straight, and I glanced off to my left, and saw the heat waves coming up, looking all shimmery over in the pits, and I thought "huh... it must be hot over there..."

I understand But my delima is I have a hard time finding gear to fit my fat a$$
I have a cheap set of Tilt 1pc Leathers I figure if I'm going to crash and the paramedics cut them off I will not cry. Latley I have just been in Jeans and a Cortech Jacket, I'm trying not to invest in a shitload of gear..untill I can get to the gym on a regular basis and lose the weight..I just need my ribs to heal (don't ask)

You know what? Just go out, and get yourself a two-piece textile suit. It'll be better than the jeans you're wearing, and be comfortable. I'd rather see someone in textiles with armor than in jeans and a jacket. Like Ray said, you can always take them in as you lose weight... but then you'd be protected now!