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Example why dating sucks and I spend $$ on myself

Sounds like he is living in reality to me. I am surprised that so many guys here are surprised that women tend to favor tall guys. All my lady friends are very honest in that they strongly prefer a tall guy for multiple reasons. Next up on BARF revelations...guys prefer women in shape who know how to cook.

It's something you don't realize if you're tall. You think it's all personality. Tell girls you're actually 5'6" in person. See what happens. :laughing

That said, you can make up for a lot just by being a cool person. I am firmly entrenched within "manlet" status and I don't care.
 
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I have never had the problems that Dubs is running into, but then again I am 6' 1" and my fingerprints are sexy as fuck.
 
I don't think anyone is disagreeing with this... she may favor taller guys but excluding yourself from the competition based on your own preconceived notions as to what women want... that's where dubs failed.

I agree with everything you said except this. It is not just a preconceived notion...it is reality. Women overwhelmingly prefer tall men. He was just saving himself time and even more importantly to him, money. It doesn't make it right but I can't blame him.
 
I agree with everything you said except this. It is not just a preconceived notion...it is reality. Women overwhelmingly prefer tall men. He was just saving himself time and even more importantly to him, money. It doesn't make it right but I can't blame him.

If she had reached out and inquired about his height, it wouldn't be preconceived but since she gave no indication that height would be an issue, and since he formed a specific opinion of her without adequate evidence to suggest...

but I'm 6'4" what the heck do I know :dunno me and my tall privilege :rolleyes
 
...it is reality. Women overwhelmingly prefer tall men.
You can add scientific and statistic proven fact to that reality. All things the same, the taller man will win.

That said, there are many short men with taller and total package women. It's in how guys sell themselves. Surely getting defensive about an innocuous height comment won't make chicks fall over their heads. Turn it into a joke or something funny. "Hey, the upside is that when you put me in the doghouse, it'll be just a puppy house." Chicks dig guys that make them laugh. Another scientific fact.
 
If she had reached out and inquired about his height, it wouldn't be preconceived but since she gave no indication that height would be an issue, and since he formed a specific opinion of her without adequate evidence to suggest...

but I'm 6'4" what the heck do I know :dunno me and my tall privilege :rolleyes

I hear you but in the end it is irrelevant as he was right and his height mattered. He saved himself time and money. Could it have gone the other way? Sure, but the odds were overwhelmingly against him which is why I sympathize with his approach. I'm 6-4 as well so never been an issue for me but all my shorter buddies in the dating game tell me it is almost always listed as a must have on women profiles on the dating sites they frequent.
 
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I hear you but in the end it is irrelevant as he was right and his height mattered.

And you can not determine relevancy based on an elicited response... ;) (ie, you can't be surprised by a response you set yourself up to receive - e.g. you shot a man and he died, you can't then go and say he would have died anyway had I not shot him... dubs action caused her to not be interested... why? who knows. MAYBE she doesn't like short dudes, MAYBE she doesn't like insecure dudes, MAYBE she doesn't like how dubs texts, who knows but her!)

My boy Anthony is pretty short and has had no problem with the ladies... it's all in how you present yourself! :thumbup
 
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all my shorter buddies in the dating game tell me it is almost always listed as a must have on their profiles on the dating sites they frequent.

So they then lie and list their height as 5'10. :laughing

I'm an actual 5'10 and when I was playing around on the sites, I caught on pretty quickly that if I listed 5'10 the women often assumed I was 5'6.
 
You can add scientific and statistic proven fact to that reality.

And add the proven fact this shallow girl lied to Dubbs not once but TWICE about her height. Girl is wacko, bullet dodged. :p
 
I hear you but in the end it is irrelevant as he was right and his height mattered.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

So they then lie and list their height as 5'10. :laughing

I'm an actual 5'10 and when I was playing around on the sites, I caught on pretty quickly that if I listed 5'10 the women often assumed I was 5'6.

Damn, so does that mean I need to adjust my real height by a factor of 1.06 or just add on 4 inches?

"A new survey shows that the average height of males in the online dating community is 6'2" compared to the national average of 5'10", and there are many outliers who report being 6'8", even 6'10"."
 
Self-fulfilling prophecy.



Damn, so does that mean I need to adjust my real height by a factor of 1.06 or just add on 4 inches?

"A new survey shows that the average height of males in the online dating community is 6'2" compared to the national average of 5'10", and there are many outliers who report being 6'8", even 6'10"."

:laughing :laughing yea sounds about right.

The online dating sites are basically just filled with a bunch of liars. Everyone is a foodie, has traveled to 30 countries, loves nature, and is tall and cut.
 
And you can not determine relevancy based on an elicited response... ;) (ie, you can't be surprised by a response you set yourself up to receive - e.g. you shot a man and he died, you can't then go and say he would have died anyway had I not shot him...

Interesting point but I guess I am looking at it from a different perspective. More along the lines of don't go gambling in Vegas and expect to win money. Sure it can happen but the odds are not in your favor. It is not a matter of relevancy here as the fact that the large majority of women prefer taller men is a fact. He has every right to save his time and money and not pursue someone in the off chance they might like guys below average height (no offense man). To me it would be along the same lines as a woman omitting her obesity leading up to a date in the off chance her personality may win him over.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

More like recognizing the laws of probability in my opinion. Either way, I do believe there is a partner out there for everyone and hope dubz finds his soulmate.
 
Got an interesting message from a woman I am going out on first date with. "btw I'm 5'8" -- apparently that's a thing I'm supposed to mention? ha ha"

Replied I don't know, but see quite a few women do it, and some refer to guys doing it, and find whole thing weird.

Will see what happens tomorrow. :laughing
 
Damn after reading 12 pages I am glad I am old:afm199

I am only 5' 7" on a good day. Found the right one over 36 years ago. She is 5' 2" and the best in the world, likes going to Bonnieville for vacation.:thumbup
 
Damn after reading 12 pages I am glad I am old:afm199

I am only 5' 7" on a good day. Found the right one over 36 years ago. She is 5' 2" and the best in the world, likes going to Bonerville for vacation.:thumbup

I'd make every day a vacation if I were you. :party
 
:laughing :laughing yea sounds about right.

The online dating sites are basically just filled with a bunch of liars. Everyone is a foodie, has traveled to 30 countries, loves nature, and is tall and cut.

I wouldn't say it's a majority of people that lie. I've found that most don't. I never did, and it worked out real well for me. I really am the President of my own country, but i'm living in exile.
 
:laughing Anthony is a perfect example of height means jack shit compared to personality, and he's got that in spades.

As for height on dating sites...I wouldn't use that as a representative portion of the population. That being said, I HAVE had dates that expressed surprise I was actually as tall as my profile said...and the funny thing is I've never considered myself tall. Case in point with fucking Matt/Bassem :)twofinger)/other friends I've known for 20 years - I've always been the shortest one in the group. Very rarely am I the tallest.
 
:laughing :laughing yea sounds about right.

The online dating sites are basically just filled with a bunch of liars. Everyone is a foodie, has traveled to 30 countries, loves nature, and is tall and cut.

Hah, no kidding. I mean, I won't call them liars, but there are an awful lot of people with the same interests. Maybe it's just an SF/Bay Area thing. :dunno

More like recognizing the laws of probability in my opinion. Either way, I do believe there is a partner out there for everyone and hope dubz finds his soulmate.

The laws of probability don't govern first impressions. I get what you are saying, but I like to think that the factors contributing to my success with women are more than just sheer probability. My behavior contributes significantly more towards determining the odds of my success I think, than just her preferences.

I've been the first Asian guy for some non-asian girls. If you had asked them if they'd have hooked up with an Asian, they might've said no. But I didn't bother to ask.
 
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Maybe it is a California thing, but I don't meet many women who wear anything but flats or kitten heels or a boot with a bit of heel.

Are you dating strippers?

I agree. Younger women these days seem to have no idea what's cool in footwear. Their shoes just look like shit!

Manlet! Reli…that shit IS funny! You've got to love that term! besides, everyone knows short guys get no hooch!
 
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