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Ford Ranger 4x4 vs Honda Ridgeline 4x4

Wolf said:
:blush:blush:blush Mine arrived about 3 weeks ago.
Worth the wait for a manual.

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Congrats dude. Took me forever to find one in my favorite color that was a long bed. Apparently Californians don't like long bed double cabs.
 
ScorpioVI said:
Congrats dude. Took me forever to find one in my favorite color that was a long bed. Apparently Californians don't like long bed double cabs.
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I can't even imagine a long bed. This thing is already a handful negotiating narrow parking lot aisles. :wow
 
yodaisgod said:
Perhaps. LOL

The Nissan D40 platform has been around since 2004. Yeah....2004.

D23 was never introduced to the USDM and CDM.

The 2022 Frontier we are going to see is a standalone platform for the USDM only. Based on Nissan's pattern, it'll be around for a decade plus. :laughing
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Wasn't a new motor and trans intro'd last year, but in the current long running model?
 
Wolf said:
I can't even imagine a long bed. This thing is already a handful negotiating narrow parking lot aisles. :wow
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Start battle parking, you gots to back it in. Tactically sound AND extra poser points.

And I always park at the far end of the lot. :laughing
 
9 speed trans with the new motor but yes outdated everywhere else. Fine if someone wants to keep the price down and stay away from a more complex vehicle with a lot more that can break.
 
Taco does good with a heavy load too. I really love this color in person it’s called Lunar Rock.
 

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kingmoochr said:
Prerunners scout the course a trophy truck will run.... at 2-5x the speed of the prerunner. Hence the name "prerunner".

Unless you're still on production vehicles and not racecars. Then I don't know where trophy truck fits in or if it's being used as marketing jargon...
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I am indeed talking about production trucks. And yeah, to me, it is just marketing jargon.

ScorpioVI said:
Proud Tacoma cultist. Haters can outperform it for $10-15K less. :laughing
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Fixed that for you. :love :laughing

951dude said:
Dealer's are adding 10k in markup on anything TRDpro
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:rofl
 
yodaisgod said:
As for the GM, I don't think it's the lack of sales for the diesels, they are just hard to come by and some people can't wait, so they move on. The interior is still horrible and the plastics are shit. They are only good for fleet work trucks on construction sites, city/county government utility yards and refineries. GM is now back in the fleet sales game since 2018 after having to leave it when it went through bankruptcy in 2008. Fleet sales for many GM dealers can account for as much as 40% of their sales a year. Anyway......
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The moment many of us potential smaller displacement diesel buyers saw that the oil pump in GM's baby Duramax was run by a rubber belt that's "wet", as in "in the oil bath", it became a total lump of crap.

GM claims the belt is good for 150k miles and when you see the engineers talking about that, you can see they really don't expect any more from it. And it's at the rear of the engine. So they designed an engine that you will need to pull the transmission to service every 150k, at most! Odds are, you'd have to do that more often though.

There was a ton of hype about the Colorado/ZR2/Bison in a diesel version... right up until they showed the details of the baby max.
 
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Few years ago I looked at getting a replacement Tacoma but they were still gutless and the back headroom could only accommodate midgets.
Checked out the Colorado and they had the crappiest seats of anything I test drove. I didn’t need a truck bad enough to buy either.
 
wazzuFreddo said:
For 10k in savings, I’m willing to hop on a plane and buy elsewhere.
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It was the same thing when I was looking to buy a WRX about 5 years ago. In TX, dealers were charging the "TrueCar" average price ($200-300 off MSRP). Came back to CA for vacation and stopped by a Subie dealer here and every single turbo Subi (WRX, STI, and Forester XT) had a sharpie "+$4000 Market Rate" added to their window stickers. :wow
 
Wolf said:
It was the same thing when I was looking to buy a WRX about 5 years ago. In TX, dealers were charging the "TrueCar" average price ($200-300 off MSRP). Came back to CA for vacation and stopped by a Subie dealer here and every single turbo Subi (WRX, STI, and Forester XT) had a sharpie "+$4000 Market Rate" added to their window stickers. :wow
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ya but then you have the cost of the plane tickets, 1500-2000 mile drive, and hotels to contend with. Plus your time. May still be worth it i guess, depending on what you have going on and how much money you make.
 
Johndicezx9 said:
The new 22 model will sell, I bet.

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Much nicer looking truck. The current Nissans are completely unremarkable.

It's kind of funny, way back when I was looking at buying a truck, my step father gave some sage advice. Simply "what truck do you see the working people drive".

The basic "wisdom of the crowds" premise being that these folk rely on these vehicles beyond simply transportation. At the time, that truck was the Toyota. The Nissan "Hardbody" as it was at the time, didn't really register.

So I got Toyota with that famous, immortal 22R motor.

I love the look of the Tacomas, in those sand and gray-blue colors. That tan one on the Overland thread just brings out the Tim Taylor in me.

The Nissans have never looked good to me.

But this looks much better.
 
Charles R said:
The moment many of us potential smaller displacement diesel buyers saw that the oil pump in GM's baby Duramax was run by a rubber belt that's "wet", as in "in the oil bath", it became a total lump of crap.

GM claims the belt is good for 150k miles and when you see the engineers talking about that, you can see they really don't expect any more from it. And it's at the rear of the engine. So they designed an engine that you will need to pull the transmission to service every 150k, at most! Odds are, you'd have to do that more often though.

There was a ton of hype about the Colorado/ZR2/Bison in a diesel version... right up until they showed the details of the baby max.
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Ah...good to know.
 
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