Freeway Protests and Solution? Is there?

[Climber]

Send granny on freeway with her '70s station-wagon. After the first 10-20 are mowed down, rest will think twice about pulling that gag again.

All these stupid protests are not accomplishing anything! If anything, it's hurting their cause and turning off those who may be supporting them.

Obviously, you don't get it.

There have been too many cases of black people shot or killed under circumstances that if a white person had been substituted would have never gone anywhere near where it ended for the black man.

I'm sure you'd like them to just STFU and keep dying, keep being afraid. They're sick of it and it shouldn't be happening.

There is nothing whatsoever wrong about protesting.

The looting and burning? That is almost all being started by outside groups (Left and Right) starting shit for their own agenda and getting the stupid ones to then participate. That's a stupid mistake, on the parts of the local ones participating.

Then the top leadership is only spouting threats and bluster with some words thrown in to make it sound like there is sympathy, but people can tell when somebody isn't being genuine, especially when phrases are taken from a very bad time in the past.

Your kind of attitude just says STFU and go home or we will start killing you until you do. Do you really think that is the message that is going to tell them that there will be a change? Nope. Not at all. Quite the opposite, like throwing gasoline on a fire.

 

[mean dad]

Man oh man I was really on board with ending police brutality on people of color because not only do I think it's a gross violation of their human rights but I think it's incredibly unprofessional of the police to act like that, but then I read that some angry people blocked traffic for a while and now I don't care about my fellow human's suffering anymore.

 

[DannoXYZ]

Obviously, you don't get it.

From the videos, it does not appear that protestor groups and looters are different. There's no uniforms showing who's a protestor or a looter. As previously mentioned, we're all one and same. What one does represents the rest of us.

What is purpose of protest?
Is that end-goal being accomplished by looting and burning?

 

[cheez]

Man oh man I was really on board with ending police brutality on people of color because not only do I think it's a gross violation of their human rights but I think it's incredibly unprofessional of the police to act like that, but then I read that some angry people blocked traffic for a while and now I don't care about my fellow human's suffering anymore.

+1

"Them inconveniencing me to make their point heard warrants me running them down in my vehicle!" seems like another point folks are making which they may not entirely intend to.

 

[mean dad]

From the videos, it does not appear that protestor groups and looters are different. There's no uniforms showing who's a protestor or a looter. As previously mentioned, we're all one and same. What one does represents the rest of us.

What is purpose of protest?
Is that end-goal being accomplished by looting and burning?

From the videos, it does not appear that good police and bad police are different. There's no uniforms showing who's a good cop or a bad cop. As previously mentioned, they're all one and same. What one does represents the rest of them.

Crazy, right?

 

[Climber]

From the videos, it does not appear that protestor groups and looters are different. There's no uniforms showing who's a protestor or a looter. As previously mentioned, we're all one and same. What one does represents the rest of us.

What is purpose of protest?
Is that end-goal being accomplished by looting and burning?

As I said, you don't get it.

It's groups like Antifa and other groups with an agenda that is different from the protester's who are starting and carrying on this crap. It's absolutely counter-productive but the people starting this shit don't care because their goals are different.

 

[Dubbington]

Is it that hard to arrest and charge criminals in a timely manner? THIS is referring to the countless # of cops that clearly commit murder against a black man/woman and are either never charged or it takes months. I think the man in Georgia, Aubrey, went through 3 district attorneys before the two white men in their pickup were charged 2+ months later.

If there were more swift action in keeping the police force clean and honest, that would be a start.

George Floyd's killer, cuz he's a killer, had lots of red flags and infractions as a cop filed yet still was employed and on duty.

Doesn't help the president and those that pull his puppet strings are not trying to unit.

Which leads me to the freeway protests, riots, and looting. Black men an women don't know what else to do to be heard. Unfortunately you do what's necessary to be heard and generally do not think about the result, you just want to be heard. Which is what is happening.

The pallets of bricks and other Antifa, left/right wing agenda stuff....that's beyond my current understanding now as to why which side may be doing what.

Come November when it's Trump vs Biden, two old whitemen, no clue how that's gonna go. Biden has not been vocal enough and visible enough for me. It seems that there's an underlaying plan to create such a massive divide and chaos knowing Trump wont handle it well and to imply his blame/cause it will spark thousands to the polls to vote against him. We will see. Very very odd times we are going through.

 

[DannoXYZ]

As I said, you don't get it.

It's groups like Antifa and other groups with an agenda that is different from the protester's who are starting and carrying on this crap. It's absolutely counter-productive but the people starting this shit don't care because their goals are different.

Have any Antifa perps been caught, tried and sentence for this? Have they claimed responsibility for looting & burning? It's like blaming Floyd's death on pre-existing conditions. Where's actual corroborating evidence?

Or look at it from other end cause & effect afterwards. Has any protests in past resulted in any oversight or regulatory changes to prevent cops from over-stepping their authority? Certainly doesn't seem like it in Floyd's case. Well.. I guess that's Antifa's viewpoint...

 

[mean dad]

..Or look at it from other end cause & effect afterwards. Has any protests in past resulted in any oversight or regulatory changes to prevent cops from over-stepping their authority? Certainly doesn't seem like it in Floyd's case. Well.. I guess that's Antifa's viewpoint...

Well, you know, there's the whole fucking civil rights thing.

 

[byke]

I think you have to expand your thoughts on what happens on freeways. It's more than people being inconvenienced. It's more like cutting off food/water for some people. Now, if you wanted to take the position that people dying in ambulances because they couldn't get to a hospital because they were locked in for hours because of protectors and that-that sacrifice is a necessary tradeoff for the bigger picture, gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelet kind of thing, that's an understandable concept.

 

[cheez]

I think you have to expand your thoughts on what happens on freeways. It's more than people being inconvenienced. It's more like cutting off food/water for some people. Now, if you wanted to take the position that people dying in ambulances because they couldn't get to a hospital because they were locked in for hours because of protectors and that-that sacrifice is a necessary tradeoff for the bigger picture, gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelet kind of thing, that's an understandable concept.

Protestors have uniformly let folks through who have emergencies, young children, and emergency vehicles. This argument is specious.

 

[mean dad]

It's acceptable for old people to die so Karen can get her haircut, but fuck a bunch of being late because cops killed someone unjustly.

 

[Jalopyshoppe]

Man oh man I was really on board with ending police brutality on people of color because not only do I think it's a gross violation of their human rights but I think it's incredibly unprofessional of the police to act like that, but then I read that some angry people blocked traffic for a while and now I don't care about my fellow human's suffering anymore.

+2

Well said.

 

[Jalopyshoppe]

It's acceptable for old people to die so Karen can get her haircut, but fuck a bunch of being late because cops killed someone unjustly.

And again.

 

[byke]

Protestors have uniformly let folks through who have emergencies, young children, and emergency vehicles. This argument is specious.

It's not binary and like I said, there's a lot more going on. Look at the FedEx big rig. If society deems it acceptable to block freeways/roads/whatever, then I'll roll with it and just hope my friends/family never make their way to liveleak.

It's acceptable for old people to die so Karen can get her haircut, but fuck a bunch of being late because cops killed someone unjustly.

I don't understand, who are the old people? People in ambulances? Because if Karen makes it through, then wouldn't they make it through as well? I'm with you on the fuck-Karen part, but unfortunately there's no practical way to select who has to wait and who gets to go. I'm not sure there's any way to deal with people on the freeways that isn't super Orwellian, but if there were a non-Floyd method to deal with it, that should probably happen. Otherwise I think we get to the point of, should there be a moral limit on protesting? Can we shut off water? Can we block the delivery of food? Can we destroy gas stations and refineries? Do you buy into the concept of "essential businesses", or is nothing essential?

 

[mean dad]

It's not binary and like I said, there's a lot more going on. Look at the FedEx big rig. If society deems it acceptable to block freeways/roads/whatever, then I'll roll with it and just hope my friends/family never make their way to liveleak.



I don't understand, who are the old people? People in ambulances? Because if Karen makes it through, then wouldn't they make it through as well? I'm with you on the fuck-Karen part, but unfortunately there's no practical way to select who has to wait and who gets to go. I'm not sure there's any way to deal with people on the freeways that isn't super Orwellian, but if there were a non-Floyd method to deal with it, that should probably happen. Otherwise I think we get to the point of, should there be a moral limit on protesting? Can we shut off water? Can we block the delivery of food? Can we destroy gas stations and refineries? Do you buy into the concept of "essential businesses", or is nothing essential?

Right wing nuts were demanding that America reopen immediately in spite of Covid-19 deaths and if the cost was gonna be some old people that would have died anyway, that's the cost of being an American.

Can I get a little humor in here fer crissakes?

 

[Climber]

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[byke]

...were demanding that America reopen immediately in spite of Covid-19 deaths and if the cost was gonna be some old people that would have died anyway, that's the cost of being an American.

Can I get a little humor in here fer crissakes?

No humor for you!

It's tough to sort out two people wanting the same thing, but from different motivations. Many wanting the country to reopen were doing so from a complete dildo perspective, but there's some info to suggest pretty significant damage for every percent of unemployment, including people dying. There are rises in heart attacks and suicides and whatnot that correlate to recession and unemployment. It's likely to lose more people from the jump to 15% from 5% unemployment than from the virus. If you look at it strictly from a caring perspective, there has been no clear path, which means you understand wanting the country to open. Howeverrrrrrr, wanting the country to open is also what a shit-ton of assholes wanted. Anyway, you can see the parallel and all I can say is that I don't want the freeways open from a punitive motivation.

 

[mean dad]

All Lives Matter unless it's old folks then they can go ahead and die so Maryanne can get her nails did.

That's the funny part.

 

[byke]

I'm missing the old folks part. Point me to the start..?