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Freeway Protests and Solution? Is there?

What kind of activist are you if you're not spamming social media with awareness posts?
 
Interesting. Being scared in your own car, and not feeling safe, despite doing nothing wrong. That sounds a lot like what black people are saying. Imagine someone else stopping you for nothing more than the color of your skin, and they have the power to kill you. You're trapped and powerless. Really has to suck.
You reap what you sow.
Interesting parallels here.
Not all cops are racist. Not all protesters are looters.
Funny that some mention being less sympathetic after sharing a similar experience. Imagine how much resentment and hate you'd have if that was EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE.
 
^^ Soap box. Twisting everyone’s words.

Being fish in a barrel during a protest on a freeway is not anything I condone. If they want to demonstrate and protest fine. But rioting and breaking car windows and preventing a lot of urgent things from happening is not appropriate.
 
Abacinator said:
What kind of activist are you if you're not spamming social media with awareness posts?
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Just like the young news journalist who had her boyfriend take a photo of her borrowing the screw gun of worker boarding up windows and posing to look like she was helping board up the windows...then they hop in their Mercedes suv and take off.

24 hours later her identity was found and she went private on social media.
 
Jalopyshoppe said:
Interesting. Being scared in your own car, and not feeling safe, despite doing nothing wrong. That sounds a lot like what black people are saying. Imagine someone else stopping you for nothing more than the color of your skin, and they have the power to kill you. You're trapped and powerless. Really has to suck.
You reap what you sow.
Interesting parallels here.
Not all cops are racist. Not all protesters are looters.
Funny that some mention being less sympathetic after sharing a similar experience. Imagine how much resentment and hate you'd have if that was EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE.
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Dubbington said:
^^ Soap box. Twisting everyone’s words.

Being fish in a barrel during a protest on a freeway is not anything I condone. If they want to demonstrate and protest fine. But rioting and breaking car windows and preventing a lot of urgent things from happening is not appropriate.
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sorry - i have to take serious issue with your ‘soap box’ and ‘twisting everyone’s words’ response. the dude was absolutely SPOT ON - a brilliant post full of valuable insight.
 
Jalopyshoppe said:
Interesting. Being scared in your own car, and not feeling safe, despite doing nothing wrong. That sounds a lot like what black people are saying. Imagine someone else stopping you for nothing more than the color of your skin, and they have the power to kill you. You're trapped and powerless. Really has to suck.
You reap what you sow.
Interesting parallels here.
Not all cops are racist. Not all protesters are looters.
Funny that some mention being less sympathetic after sharing a similar experience. Imagine how much resentment and hate you'd have if that was EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE.
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While I agree with your point, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Isn't that also one of the points trying to be made by the protestors? I've seen a hell of a lot more videos of self-policing this time around, with protestors restraining and handing over troublemakers. It's not a matter of trying to turn the fear and violence around on the other side, it's simply getting the other side to acknowledge it exists so we can come together to fix it.
 
NorCalAthlete said:
While I agree with your point, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Isn't that also one of the points trying to be made by the protestors? I've seen a hell of a lot more videos of self-policing this time around, with protestors restraining and handing over troublemakers. It's not a matter of trying to turn the fear and violence around on the other side, it's simply getting the other side to acknowledge it exists so we can come together to fix it.
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with all due respect, i think you missed his point completely.
 
Jalopyshoppe said:
Interesting. Being scared in your own car, and not feeling safe, despite doing nothing wrong. That sounds a lot like what black people are saying. Imagine someone else stopping you for nothing more than the color of your skin, and they have the power to kill you. You're trapped and powerless. Really has to suck.
You reap what you sow.
Interesting parallels here.
Not all cops are racist. Not all protesters are looters.
Funny that some mention being less sympathetic after sharing a similar experience. Imagine how much resentment and hate you'd have if that was EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE.
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Good post.

Black people do live that kind of life. My wife has been pulled over plenty of times for being black and driving in the wrong neighborhood at night. It happens. Just imagine how often that would be if she lived in a more racist part of this country. Yeah, they do exist, if you don't realize that then you don't belong in the conversation.
 
Jalopyshoppe said:
Interesting. Being scared in your own car, and not feeling safe, despite doing nothing wrong. That sounds a lot like what black people are saying. Imagine someone else stopping you for nothing more than the color of your skin, and they have the power to kill you. You're trapped and powerless. Really has to suck.
You reap what you sow.
Interesting parallels here.
Not all cops are racist. Not all protesters are looters.
Funny that some mention being less sympathetic after sharing a similar experience. Imagine how much resentment and hate you'd have if that was EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE.
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+1,000.
 
Jalopyshoppe said:
You reap what you sow.
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It's ignorant words like this that fan the flames of violence and hate.

I believe in the cause. I believe George Floyd was murdered. I believe Blacks are disproportionately targeted by police.

But I don't believe in violence and putting others needlessly at risk in dangerous situations. Blocking highways is pure fuckery.

But you go on with your keyboard warrior princess bad ass self. You know nothing about me so don't make ignorant comments.
 
littlebeast said:
sorry - i have to take serious issue with your ‘soap box’ and ‘twisting everyone’s words’ response. the dude was absolutely SPOT ON - a brilliant post full of valuable insight.
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I don't think anyone is disagreeing with sentiment and his statement.

My question was regarding the protests and eventual riots on the freeway if they are just and what to do to prevent them.

Jalopy is implying we need to accept the riots and freeways blockages regardless of any and all consequences to oneself as some sort of penance for not being black.

The twisting words part is in regards Jalopy's implication that if one doesn't agree with the freeway protests then one doesn't agree with WHY the protests are happening and essentially a racist. That, I don't agree with and feel it's generalizing and getting on a soap box.
 
Not a penance for not being black; but if moms and dads have to suck it up for America when their kids get shot at school, maybe sometimes we have to pay the price for living in an oppressive nation.
 
951dude said:
You don't even know what that means.
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:rofl

I really love how you go from chastising someone with "You know nothing about me so don't make ignorant comments." to telling me what I know.

This definitely makes me take your opinion seriously. :thumbup
 
cheez said:
Is that because you are the gatekeeper for what experiences Americans find oppressive?
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In general, Americans know nothing about oppressive governments.

Lots of personal experience with communist states. Calling the US an oppressive nation is ignorant.
 
Yeah it's like, we need people to empathize the experiences of others because it's the only way we could advance as a society, but you couldn't possibly understand. As if papa relativism and mama isolationist made a baby.
 
951dude said:
In general, Americans know nothing about oppressive governments.

Lots of personal experience with communist states. Calling the US an oppressive nation is ignorant.
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In general, generalizations suck. Dismissing the perspectives of others is ignorant, as is saying there is no oppression in our supposedly enlightened nation. That you persist in calling them ignorant when they're literally dying at the knees of police in our streets and triggering the protests of millions worldwide is yet another clear and visceral demonstration of your failure to actually listen to their grievances and internalize them as legitimate.
 
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