Kawasaki ZX-14 World's Fastest bike???

[Boba]

Not close, but not far either...

In real life, it was not close at all. What was close was the difference between the CBR1100XX and the ZX11. That was close!

From Sport Rider Magazine:


motorcycle iss. qtr mile(sec.@mph) 60-80mph time(sec.) 80-100mph time(sec.) top speed(mph)


CBR1100XX 8/99 10.40 @ 136.14 3.41 3.89 176.1

GSX1300R 8/99 9.97 @ 144.80 3.28 3.47 189.6

ZX-12R 10/02 9.95 @ 144.40 n/a n/a 185.6


motorcycle iss. min/max/avg(mpg) peak(hp@rpm) peak torque wet dry

CBR1100XX 8/99 38/43/40 136.9 @ 9250 83.7 @ 7250 547 509

ZX-12R 10/02 n/a 159.8 @ 10,250 91.4 @ 7750 551 519

GSX1300R 8/99 35/41/37 159.6 @ 9500 99.6 @ 6750 550 515


-The following is not from Sport Rider-

Items of note:

1. The Honda has the smallest engine in the group (163cc's smaller than the Hayabusa and 63cc's smaller than the Kawasaki).

2. Since the original test above, the Hayabusa has gained ten (10) pounds and lost 1.6 Bhp:

GSX1300R 10/02 n/a 158.0 @ 9750 98.4 @ 7000 560 525


Personal Summary (with details culled from Sport Rider, Motorcyclist, and other mags):

1. The Honda, unquestionably, possesses the smoothest drivetrain in the group. (Every mag agrees)

2. In their quest to dethrone the Blackbird, the engineers from both Suzuki and Kawasaki relied on the "no replacement for displacement" crutch rather than engineer a superior powerplant. Well, Kawasaki also had three years of R&D.

3. Until '06, the Blackbird was still in production though not sold in the US. Apparently, US customers prefer the Lime Green color schemes (on an otherwise sweet looking ride) Kawasaki offers and the bulbous, "Baby Got Back" styling cues of the Hayabusa.

Have a nice day

 

[396]

Bring a blackbird and zx12 to the drags strip and watch a Busa beat them both. Real life, not magazine bikes, with normal everyday rider, not magazine tester. The Blackbird will get dusted and look like a 900 against a Busa. The 12 will be much closer, but the Busa is easier to ride. Like I have said before, it will all come down to the abilities of the person riding each machine. Let me know when you are ready.

 

[Boba]

Did you happen to notice that I never disputed the fact that both bikes are faster than the XX?

...not magazine bikes, with normal everyday rider, not magazine tester.

BTW, WTF are you trying to say here?

 

[396]

In a round about way I am trying to get peole to go to the track. I have tried the normal "come on out to the track", but that did not work. So now I am trying the "talk the talk, walk the walk", to see if I can get some people to come out.

For some reason (scared maybe) people are afraid of the dragstrip. Personally, I think it is because the clock does not lie. You can always say how fast you are, if you never go!

 

[396]

Magazine bikes have been known to be a lot different from production bikes. Same as magazine riders.

 

[race24x]

Guys the fact is they are both fast bikes. If you did 5 runs in a day you wouldnt run the same times and certainly not .02 apart in one day I have run 6.66 6.76 and 6.68 on practice runs throw in a 7.1 when I wheelied real bad and that is on the same bike same rider same day etc and so on. Without airshifter etc you will never be exact times. I did all kinds of roll ons against my buddies 12 and the 2 bikes where so close it wasnt funny. If we where up higher in the RPMS he could sneak by if down lower I would but in the end we would be even to about 175 MPH it seemed the Aero of the Busa worked better up there. Still no one has dyno there bike as far as my Busa I estimated the numbers I have a Two Brothers exhaust and a PC and I made 159 RWHP like to see what the Kawi is stock and then normal street mods.

Before I get flamed sorry we dont have a 1/4 mile strip up here in Maine those times are 1/8th mile

 

[396]

everything you said is true. The 12 and the Busa are close and the 14 will be just a tick quicker. But in the end, as for as which one is the quickest (1/4 mile) it will come down to the ability of the rider.

 

[PsychoZ]

Its interesting that the busa guys brag about their bikes being [slightly] faster than the ZX12R. They rarely mention the 100cc advantage the busa had over the ZX12R even though the power and speed/acceleration difference was very minimal.

On the other hand, I have heard many times that the ZX14 "should" be faster since it has a bigger (50cc) engine and the actual difference in speed/acceleration is only minimal.

hell I will say it, the Busa should be faster because it is a bigger motor, I am not afraid to say it, but then again I am not afraid to say most bikes will beat me in a race since I do not race

 

[race24x]

I wouldnt think that 50 CC's would make as much of a difference as much as 8 years of technology. Zuki seems to have fogotten the Busa it is almost unchanged from 1999 While ALL the litre bikes get changes every 2 years just about. I am waiting to see what the new Busa is and looks like I loved the looks of mine except the headlight which has grown on me some. Besides if you take 2 same year Busas and put them side by side or 2 same year ZX14's side by side they are hardly ever equal. Cam timing alone from the factory is plus or minus quite a bit. Hopefully you get a Tuesday bike LOL when they are not quite so hung over from the Saki.......

 

[Dre-z]

I think the r6 and r1 look more like praying mantids than the busa

Naw more like birds of prey just waiting to swoop down on some unsuspecting field mouse. and I am referring to the previous gen R1s and not this years models.

 

[EastBayDave]

I just couldn't launch my zx12...

Rode it to Sears Point one Wed. Grudge Night. 2 practices, eliminated first round when I "creeped" thru the lights & red lighted...

All 3 runs in the 11's @ ~130mph. It was wheelie or spin, or both combined together. I just plain couldn't launch it right; I can admit it. I'd like to go again someday...see if I can get that 60' mark below 2 secs...think that was the root of the problem.

Good riders do low 10's, or high 9's with expert riders and mods. Like you guys say, it's all rider...

me squidly...

 

[dissolvedego]

In a round about way I am trying to get peole to go to the track. I have tried the normal "come on out to the track", but that did not work. So now I am trying the "talk the talk, walk the walk", to see if I can get some people to come out.

For some reason (scared maybe) people are afraid of the dragstrip. Personally, I think it is because the clock does not lie. You can always say how fast you are, if you never go!

the 2 things that discourage me from going to the track are:

1) lack of funds

2) lack of transportation for the bike

everyone says not to ride your bike to and from the track. well i don't have a car, let alone something that could carry one of my bikes.

a dragstrip might be different though. that seems more straightforward. do you even have to tape the lights and all that stuff to sign up at a dragstrip?

 

[Bronto]

Haven't seen ZX14 vs Busa. Seen ZX12 vs Busa web videos.
ZX12 pulls ahead in beginning. Busa over takes the lead in the middle. ZX12 closes the gap at the higher speeds.
It would seem on a track of a 1/4 mile plus 100 yards ZX12R would win.

To get around the rider friendly throttle response. Will or doesl ZX14 riders by pass the secondary throttle. Would it make a difference in quickness.

 

[Travis]

The secondary throttle plate issue only affects performance below 6,000 RPMs. Racers won't care since they don't ride at those low RPMs.

Power hungry street riders are the ones messing with the ZX14 secondary plates

 

[396]

I just couldn't launch my zx12...

Rode it to Sears Point one Wed. Grudge Night. 2 practices, eliminated first round when I "creeped" thru the lights & red lighted...

All 3 runs in the 11's @ ~130mph. It was wheelie or spin, or both combined together. I just plain couldn't launch it right; I can admit it. I'd like to go again someday...see if I can get that 60' mark below 2 secs...think that was the root of the problem.

Good riders do low 10's, or high 9's with expert riders and mods. Like you guys say, it's all rider...

me squidly...

The launch is the hardest part. Once you get that down, then just hit your shift points. Easier said then do though. Many don't realize that. Sears is hard because it is not a ture "test and tune session". Sacramento Raceway has testing every friday night this time of year and on Saturdays during the winter schedule. This Saturday night is Grudgeracing, anyone can come and race. Just takes a lot of practice to get the launch right.

 

[396]

the 2 things that discourage me from going to the track are:

1) lack of funds

2) lack of transportation for the bike

everyone says not to ride your bike to and from the track. well i don't have a car, let alone something that could carry one of my bikes.

a dragstrip might be different though. that seems more straightforward. do you even have to tape the lights and all that stuff to sign up at a dragstrip?

About $45 for a test and tune at Sacrmaneto Raceway.
Always nice to know you don't have to ride the bike back home from a day of racing. Any little thing can go wrong and cause the bike not to be rideable, so I understand that. Get a friend with a truck and put it in the back!

 

[396]

You don't have to cover up the lights for dragracing either!