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LEO questions....answered!

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Brash47

Brash47

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2013 Triumph Thruxton 900
OK folks,
After posting a few times, you guys know I'm a cop. I have had a few private messages asking some specific questions. I have read posts regarding all kinds of traffic questions. It seems that there is alot of confusion out there as to what are traffic laws, insurance laws, and basic law violations.

If you have a question, feel free to ask. Don't always expect a FAST reply from me, but one within a day I can do....since I don't log on 24/7.

I will try to answer as many questions as possible, but please, make them serious, and don't use it as a cop bashing forum.

I have 12 years in the business, I'm not the ALL KNOWING person about this stuff, but, if I don't know the answer, I know where to find it!

So, feel free if you do need a question answered. I will not purposely be harsh if thats what happens, but I don't hold punches either....I'm not here to make you feel better, but I will answer your question HONESTLY.

I ask only one thing first...

If you have a question, research it here first, then, if you can't answer it, I'll try and help. THIS IS THE BEST SITE FOR ANSWERING YOUR LEGAL QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE LAW SAYS...

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html

its really easy to use. So, happy code hunting!

brash
 
so which do you guys really like: Krespy Kremes or Rolling Pin..? :teeth

Welcome to BARF and thanks for all the infos provided....:thumbup
 
KK of course!

brash

sheesh, what kind of question was that.....that and the smooth blend coffee they have there....ugh...thought that was common knowledge!!!!

brash
 
Brash,

Nice to see ya lay put the welcome mat. Be prepared though, a lot of times they don't like the answers. A lot of other officers on the board 10-36, and its fun to see the replies come in.

How ya like that SV1000? Have ya checked out norcalsvriders.com? Get on the mailing list with us. Lots of great people and technical info.
 
:welcome

barf welcomes you too Brash47
we have lots of questions time to time
or simply need clarification of the law
thank you in advance :)

ps. who are the better riders, locals or CHP
hehehe :p
 
silversvs said:
A lot of other officers on the board 10-36.
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So what does 10-36 mean. Stop the cop jive and talk barf.:teeth

Don't you have a badge also silversvs:confused
 
R1Ru said:
So what does 10-36 mean. Stop the cop jive and talk barf.:teeth

Don't you have a badge also silversvs:confused
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Anthony, 10-36 is the code for "confidential."

There's lots of cops on this board, but few who readily admit it. Yes I do have a nice shiny badge. Took a long time before I was comfortable enough to speak of my profession on this board. There have been some pretty blatant cop bashing threads here, but mostly I think cops are respected, but their job/mission is misunderstood.

When we going riding?
 
Cool!!

So.. is it really illegal to ride with one hand on the bars?

If someone is signalling to make a right and you're coming out of a driveway, and they decide to go straight instead and hit you, whose fault is it?

Oh.. do you have a police trading card that I can have? :D
 
You all have a job to do :thumbup

Thanks for posting up and offering your knowledge, Im sure you will be busy answering questions around here. :laughing

Do you ride on duty also :confused
 
is it legal to make a U turn at a stop light (when green, duh) unless otherwise posted?

is it legal to make a u turn in the middle of a 4 way stop sign intersection?

if road A is a culdasack (spelling?) at one end, and at the other end intersects with road B and does not continue thru road B going straight. road B is a straight steet that runs perpindicular to road A and both these roads connect via an uncontrolled intersection - who has right of way? (i'd assume road A beacuse they are not turning and road B people have to to get off of road B and to get onto their only option (road B)

if pulled over, and there is no reasonable suspicion that the subject has a weapon, is it legal to search the vehicle of the suspect? is it legal to search the trunk? or a locked glove box?
 
don't the various agencies all use different 10 codes too? so one translation might not match another. that's gotta' drive you crazy.

I'm 10-97 to the fridge for an ice cream sandwich, then 7 on the side. :p
 
Okay, then how about a LEO post up the real deal on splitting traffic. I have heard a million things, but I go by the one I have heard proof of. And that is you can share lanes, that is it. There are no other laws regarding splitting traffic, so the laws regarding reckless driving are applied.
 
I've got a question, since I got reminded of it in the other thread. Why does every cop think that it helps the driver's mood in the slightest bit after they get that ticket and the small lecture about being safe...that they have to say, "Have a nice day." The chances of that ended the instant we got handed the magic yellow slip of paper.
 
silversvs said:
Anthony, 10-36 is the code for "confidential."

There's lots of cops on this board, but few who readily admit it. Yes I do have a nice shiny badge. Took a long time before I was comfortable enough to speak of my profession on this board. There have been some pretty blatant cop bashing threads here, but mostly I think cops are respected, but their job/mission is misunderstood.

When we going riding?
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PM me and let me know when you ride. I usualy ride on Sundays.
 
This has always bewildered me.

Say there is an intersection. 3 lanes.
The left lane is left turn only. The right lane is right turn only. The middle lane is right turn only.

I know the right lane can turn right after stopping on a red light.
Can the middle lane turn right after stopping on a red?


I never 'go' from the middle lane, but consistently get people honking at me to go. :teeth
 
Do some tickets after being written up, never get turned into the courts ?
 
Okay so are you guys going to go on the Santa Clara Peace Officers Memorial run on 5-15-04 or what??

10-36? Im 10-12 dammit.
 
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re:How does a CHP patrol car get your speed if you are behind them?
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1. Pacing, they can see your speed is consitent with yours and watch you in the rear view mirror.

2. Hawk radar whether they are still or moving front or rear, you're nailed.

3. Remote radar spotter/interceptor (speed trap) there are many config of this being used, Airplanes with ground units, radar spotter with ground units,
pulse radar cameras etc etc...

4. Time and Distance formula (have seen many tickets upheld using this)

Use of radar means the officer needs to be trained/certified on the use of radar and said roadway needs to be surveyed for radar use (will be posted as Radar enforced)

re:How come a cop can get out of a ticket because he is a cop?
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Professional courtesy, this and the fact that often, the officer won't offer the info....dispatch will usually come back with the reg info, "registration code 4 and current 10-32". That 10-32 cue is what tells the contact officer the info that whoever they have pulled over, is almost always a LEO.

I also know of many that don't offer the info and sign the ticket....

re:Have a nice day
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I also agree that the disposition of a traffic stop that ends with a citeation need to be tailored to that outcome.

If no cite then wish them a nice day, if cite needed, "drive safe" is more like it.
 
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Reaching for the handy-dandy copy of the vehicle code I keep next to my bed.... BTW, I'm not kidding; it's at the front of my bookshelf. Given the number of traffic laws I break, it pays to study a bit.

Also, it's a really great deal. $3 gets you the complete Vehicle Code and an appendix that's sorta like a "California Codes: Greatest Hits". This appendix contains the best of the Penal Code, Health Code, etc. This organization makes a lot of sense. After all, if you break the Penal Code, it's likely to be a simple, 3 digit, "don't rob people" sort of law. On the other hand, traffic officers love giving out cites for 5-digit-and-3-subparagraph bullshit like making a left turn in a business district during school hours.

So here are your answers:

crow:
one hand on the bars:
I know there is something in the vehicle code about carrying packages, but I can't find it. From previous readings, I believe there is no law against one hand (or no hands) riding, except when holding a package. Reckless driving and other laws may apply.

SpeedyCorky:
U turn at a stop light & U turn at a 4-way stop sign:
Both are allowed fron the leftmost lane.

[traffic signals are lights, traffic devices are signs]
22100.5. No driver shall make a U-turn at an intersection
controlled by official traffic signals except as provided in Section
21451, and then only from the far lefthand lane that is lawfully
available to traffic moving in the direction of travel from which the
turn is commenced. No driver shall make a U-turn at an intersection
controlled by official traffic control devices except from the far
lefthand lane that is lawfully available to traffic moving in the
direction of travel from which the turn is commenced.

21451. (a) A driver facing a circular green signal shall proceed
straight through or turn right or left or make a U-turn unless a sign
prohibits a U-turn. Any driver, including one turning, shall yield
the right-of-way to other traffic and to pedestrians lawfully within
the intersection or an adjacent crosswalk.
(b) A driver facing a green arrow signal, shown alone or in
combination with another indication, shall enter the intersection
only to make the movement indicated by that green arrow or any other
movement that is permitted by other indications shown at the same
time. A driver facing a left green arrow may also make a U-turn
unless prohibited by a sign. A driver shall yield the right-of-way
to other traffic and to pedestrians lawfully within the intersection
or an adjacent crosswalk.


Unnecessarily complicated question about ROW at an T intersection:
Driver on the through road has right-of-way.

21800. (a) The driver of a vehicle approaching an intersection
shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle which has entered the
intersection from a different highway.
(b) (1) When two vehicles enter an intersection from different
highways at the same time, the driver of the vehicle on the left
shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on his or her immediate
right, except that the driver of any vehicle on a terminating highway
shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle on the intersecting
continuing highway.
(2) For the purposes of this section, "terminating highway" means
a highway which intersects, but does not continue beyond the
intersection, with another highway which does continue beyond the
intersection.

donoman:
Right on red from a middle lane.
Legal from any lane.

21453. (a) A driver facing a steady circular red signal alone shall
stop at a marked limit line, but if none, before entering the
crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then
before entering the intersection, and shall remain stopped until an
indication to proceed is shown, except as provided in subdivision
(b).(b) Except when a sign is in place prohibiting a turn, a driver,
after stopping as required by subdivision (a), facing a steady
circular red signal, may turn right, or turn left from a one-way
street onto a one-way street. A driver making that turn shall yield
the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk
and to any vehicle that has approached or is approaching so closely
as to constitute an immediate hazard to the driver, and shall
continue to yield the right-of-way to that vehicle until the driver
can proceed with reasonable safety.
 
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