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malaysian airline w/ 239 passengers lose contact w/ air traffic control..

afm199 said:
Malaysian PM says the aircraft crashed west of Perth, Australia. Which is weird as the data from the engines showed a turn the opposite direction toward Vietnam.
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The plane could've changed directions again.
 
What a nightmare, those poor people, what terror man! So if the plane had first flown hi enough, even the oxygen masks don't last long, so what an awful way to go out, perfectly healthy one minute, then sheer terror when you realise yo have no choice in the matter, like a bad dream that doesn't end from waking up......
 
hophead said:
Debris discovered in southern remote section of the Indian Ocean--- Malaysian Government just confirmed based on analysis of satellite images is the latest i just heard.
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this article says debris isn't (yet) confirmed it's from mh370:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

The objects are the latest in a series of sightings, including "suspicious objects" reported earlier Monday by a Chinese military plane that was involved in search efforts in the same region, authorities said.
So far, nothing has been definitively linked to Flight 370.
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the satellite data they used to determine the plane went down was from the satellites pinging the plane
But he said the data -- drawn from satellite pings the ill-fated airliner continued to send out throughout its final flight -- made it clear that the plane's last position was in the middle of the remote southern Indian Ocean, "far from any possible landing sites."
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Posted by Brodie Brazil, local Comcast reporter, Sharks side line guy and Aviator (has his pilots license)

Brodie Brazil
A lot of people who know me best, and know my background in aviation, have asked for insights on the crash of Malaysia 370. In no particular order, here are the things I've been sharing:

- It's not accurate to distinguish a Boeing 777 as "the safest airliner" in current service. In reality, ANY aircraft made by Boeing or Airbus have impeccable safety statistics, as long as they are maintained and piloted to standards.

- Turning off a transponder is EASY as twisting a dial-switch two notches to the left. It's actually a layer of SAFETY between the flight crew & air traffic controllers. BECAUSE… an airliner with a transponder OFF, is an immediate red-flag to controllers on the ground, in that all airline flights are required to have their transponders ON and squawking from startup to shutdown. Transponders provide altitude, heading and speed measurements to radar facilities.

- Even with the transponder OFF, it's very possible to track an airplane with PRIMARY radar. After all, it's still a huge metal tube flying in wide open skies. In this particular case, within relative distance to land, it's confusing to me how MH370 could have just "disappeared" from line-of-sight radar coverage while over ocean waters. I believe one, or several government enteties are not giving us all the information they have.

- MH370 was destined in a northerly direction, but regarding that turn "off course" to the south… it has been gauged by radar as a level, standard, steady turn. Which indicates it was either made by the autopilot, or the skill of a professional pilot. To be clear, the autopilot is ROUTINELY engaged and doing ALL THE FLYING from 1,000 feet elevation off the ground to about 1,000 feet on final approach.

- You may have heard the last words transmitted over the radio from MH370, were "all right, goodnight". This is a VERY COMMON expression heard when a pilot (at night) is routinely transitioning communication from one controller to the next. There is NOTHING suspicious about this to any professional aviator.

- If an airplane were in a "sudden, uninterrupted nose dive"… from 35,000 feet it would exceed a certain airspeed that would cause the airframe (wings, tail, horizontal stabilizers) to break off. Which would then (unfortunately) provide significant FLOATING evidence. In essence, it's impossible for an airliner to be entirely submerged (all in one piece).

My best educated guesses on what could have happened to this flight:

- There could have been a rapid loss of pressurization, which (at 35,000 feet where it had just leveled off) would have rendered the pilots and passengers (without sufficient oxygen) almost instantly incapacitated… but the airplane still flying… until it ran out of gas.

- The Pilot(s) in command could have been hijacked, but then the crew fooled hijackers by turning off the transponder… ceasing communication with air traffic control, then flying the plane completely off course until it ran out of gas.

- There could have been an explosion, intentional or not, which caused the airframe to instantly break up and cease flying. This would have caused the loss of primary radar tracking, but does not explain the turn MH370 made before disappearing.

LASTLY: I will caution everyone with this… please consider where you're getting your news & information from, regarding all aviation topics. There are currently a lot of "talking heads" out there who are not extremely versed in flight principles, rules & procedures… but are presented by networks as analysts or experts… and are disseminating information that's misleading or not completely accurate. Those who have worked in a cockpit before, are far more insightful & reliable, than those who are just pinging their sources.
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It was announced so the families of the victim's could get out of the hotel before the Ferrari F1 team could check in.... race weekend and all...
 
kevin 714 said:
Obsmacare early contributed to this catastrophe
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That is almost a complete sentence.

You also almost gave credit to a BARFer. Obscuracare is a bit different though, and involves a freezer.
 
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so...

any update of predictions from courtney love..?

:|
 
V4 said:
so...

any update of predictions from courtney love..?

:|
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Yes, I too would like an update of what Courtney "The Brain" Love thinks. :laughing
 
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