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malaysian airline w/ 239 passengers lose contact w/ air traffic control..

Bronto said:
Air France 447 disappeared June 2009. Took nearly two years to discovery the undersea wreckage in April 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447
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The wreckage was discovered withing 5days.
It took two years to find the black boxes.

I'm still not convinced they found the actual wreckage of flight 370. Or that it even sunk in the ocean.
However I can't imagine any reasonable scenario in witch the passengers are still alive.
 
Heh my nose got in the way about wreckage found in five days. :x

Thinking the pilot or co pilot had a death wish and took everyone along for the ride.
It fits the details like a broken arrow kinda of way.

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Corb said:
I'm still not convinced they found the actual wreckage of flight 370. Or that it even sunk in the ocean.
However I can't imagine any reasonable scenario in witch the passengers are still alive.
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I'm right there with you on both.

:tinfoilhat
 
What if: And I can't imagine how much this would suck, but....

What if the plane had an electrical fire just after hand off? The pilots loose system after system, do a course correction to return to an airport.

They put it on a heading they think will hit land, but it doesn't. They fly until they run out of fuel and then ditch on the water. They don't crash, they just land and float around for a while.

No wreckage because it didn't break up. No bodies because they're inside the plane.
 
This just in:

California officials reporting that the missing Malaysian flight suffered an electrical fire immediately after take off. Having lost all electronics in the cabin, the pilots attempted a return to land.

The plane apparently then flew until it was out of fuel and ditched into the ocean.
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Rel said:
What if: And I can't imagine how much this would suck, but....

What if the plane had an electrical fire just after hand off? The pilots loose system after system, do a course correction to return to an airport.

They put it on a heading they think will hit land, but it doesn't. They fly until they run out of fuel and then ditch on the water. They don't crash, they just land and float around for a while.

No wreckage because it didn't break up. No bodies because they're inside the plane.
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If it didn't crash and didn't break up, then the passengers would escape in their inflatables....why would they stay inside?
 
Rel said:
What if: And I can't imagine how much this would suck, but....

What if the plane had an electrical fire just after hand off? The pilots loose system after system, do a course correction to return to an airport.

They put it on a heading they think will hit land, but it doesn't. They fly until they run out of fuel and then ditch on the water. They don't crash, they just land and float around for a while.

No wreckage because it didn't break up. No bodies because they're inside the plane.
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The part everyone's struggling with is the apparent duration of the flight. The only way that happens is if everyone becomes incapacitated, or it's intentional.

If it were being actively piloted, eventually they'd head back towards land. You might want to ditch on the water, but not in the middle of the ocean... do it close enough to land that you have a chance.

But 6 hours, putting you out of reach of rescue aircraft?
 
Marlowe said:
The part everyone's struggling with is the apparent duration of the flight. The only way that happens is if everyone becomes incapacitated, or it's intentional.

If it were being actively piloted, eventually they'd head back towards land. You might want to ditch on the water, but not in the middle of the ocean... do it close enough to land that you have a chance.

But 6 hours, putting you out of reach of rescue aircraft?
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Really, if it was intentional, ditching in the water after flying around for six hours doesn't make much sense either. The only way that makes sense to me is if the pilot had some other intention that didn't work out for some reason.

Given how many times the "facts" have changed on this, I can't believe they've found the crash location until they have the plane.
 
tzrider said:
Really, if it was intentional, ditching in the water after flying around for six hours doesn't make much sense either. The only way that makes sense to me is if the pilot had some other intention that didn't work out for some reason.

Given how many times the "facts" have changed on this, I can't believe they've found the crash location until they have the plane.
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You'll note I did say apparent duration of this flight :) I'm torn, too, at this point, but it's certainly the best information we have available or half the Commonwealth plus the US would not be searching that area.

But it does suggest incapacitation, or, if deliberate, an effort to ensure the flight wasn't recovered.
 
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Marlowe said:
You'll note I did say apparent duration of this flight :)
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Yeah, I noticed. At this point it's only prudent to question every detail that's been reported, as so many of them have changed. It's little wonder the families of passengers are getting pissed.
 
Yeah, I am not terribly impressed with how the Malaysian authorities have handled this.

It's pretty appallingly bad.

Constantly contradicting yourselves? Saying nothing? Notifying families to basically give up via TEXT MESSAGE?

Rockstar quality work, there.

That said, the US, China, India, Australia and New Zealand seem to believe the duration of the flight is credible. I'm more willing to take their word on it.
 
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