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MotoGP Off-Season Thread

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He'd probably do 2 laps on a CRT and get right off it and tell the team to go fuck themselves.
 
I'm sure Casey on an ART could beat Valentino on a Ducati though.
 
Kurosaki said:
He'd probably do 2 laps on a CRT and get right off it and tell the team to go fuck themselves.
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He would decide to ride a CRT, then the press would announce he was going to ride a CRT. Then he would publicly deny that it was going to happen, and then he would do it.
 
Tharkûn said:
He would decide to ride a CRT, then the press would announce he was going to ride a CRT. Then he would publicly deny that it was going to happen, and then he would do it.
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:laughing

yep! Then he would suffer a mystery illness. Complain about rule changes in CRT and demand Bridgstone make better tires for the CRTs (wait, i think they already did that. . . . maybe Stoner is going to be on a CRT next year)
 
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^^^
Last time I looked like that my bike and I ended up in different places :rofl
 
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Jesus. What do you even say to this? Ah, to be young and fearless!
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You say: "Wait till he learns to ride the big bikes." :laughing

Or, "I wish my tires and suspension would do that. Then I could REALLY talk b.s. bench racing." :teeth
 
Raider said:
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Last time I looked like that my bike and I ended up in different places :rofl
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:laughing I hear ya!

clutchslip said:
You say: "Wait till he learns to ride the big bikes." :laughing

Or, "I wish my tires and suspension would do that. Then I could REALLY talk b.s. bench racing." :teeth
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Just imagine the rush of doing this. These machines are just amazing to me. I equate watching a GP pilot turning a fast lap with a kind of violent ballet. It seems so fluid and graceful. And then the chaos and violence that ensues when things go wrong. I just don't get people that have no appreciation for this sport.
 
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BLS posting on Motomatters?

http://motomatters.com/analysis/2013/02/08/2013_motogp_sepang_1_test_day_3_round_up.html


Submitted by Luiggi on Fri, 2013-02-08 04:34.


The difference of the Ducati vs Japs might be that the engine has a different layout and it's COG is lower,(i.e. lower relative to the front axle) now when they load the front end during trail braking, the different COG makes the front tire push "less downward" and hence the advantage of the jap bikes) if you look at the pics of Vale raising the rear, leg out and bike slightly angled towards the corner, it is evident that the COG of the bike is of paramount importance, and the higher COG of the japs bikes puts more downforce, rather than if it was lower, like the L-desmo config. They can throw in any number of frames, forks, tires, carbon fiber,synthetic materilias or even a wood frame if you will and nothing will happen until they scrap the silly L-engine only Harley Davidson fans like. Hopefully AUDI will enforce it's autocratic management and will come up with a desmo operated V-4 that will kick some arse and makes for a properly biased bike!! :rofl

Sorry for the off topic!! But it's rather painfully evident that Ducati needs to rethink their "uniqueness" or go home.
 
augustiron said:
BLS posting on Motomatters?

http://motomatters.com/analysis/2013/02/08/2013_motogp_sepang_1_test_day_3_round_up.html


Submitted by Luiggi on Fri, 2013-02-08 04:34.


The difference of the Ducati vs Japs might be that the engine has a different layout and it's COG is lower,(i.e. lower relative to the front axle) now when they load the front end during trail braking, the different COG makes the front tire push "less downward" and hence the advantage of the jap bikes) if you look at the pics of Vale raising the rear, leg out and bike slightly angled towards the corner, it is evident that the COG of the bike is of paramount importance, and the higher COG of the japs bikes puts more downforce, rather than if it was lower, like the L-desmo config. They can throw in any number of frames, forks, tires, carbon fiber,synthetic materilias or even a wood frame if you will and nothing will happen until they scrap the silly L-engine only Harley Davidson fans like. Hopefully AUDI will enforce it's autocratic management and will come up with a desmo operated V-4 that will kick some arse and makes for a properly biased bike!! :rofl

Sorry for the off topic!! But it's rather painfully evident that Ducati needs to rethink their "uniqueness" or go home.
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not off topic.

cant be BLS, he'd never talk bad about any V4.

the only "unique" part about Ducati that they need to rethink is their "sucking".

that whole post is unsubstantiated opinion. there is no evidence that the 90deg angle of their V4 has anything to do w/ their handling woes. each team could easily fix the understeer and provide more feedback up front... but doing so w/ the current design sacrifies too much elsewhere and raises laptimes. theyve already rotated the engine and moved the CG around with no positive results. from that, it should be obvious that there is not one magic solution; the bike is deficient in a lot of design areas, not just CG location.

and since when do Harley riders watch/follow GP...
 
I almost responded to that post on MotoMatters to point ouit that Ducati has been using a v-4 desmo motor in their GP bikes since 2003 but I figured it'd be like washing a pig... all you end up doing is wasting your soap and pissing off the pig

It's not the motor, it wasn't the carbon fiber... the basic problem is that Ducati still hasn't figured out how to make a chassis of any sort that works with the Bridgestone spec tire

at this point they ought to think about going back to a steel trellis... at least they have some expertise there
 
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[edited]....since when do Harley riders watch/follow GP.....
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essentially, none of em - evar

not even back in the day when Walter Villa won 3 [three!] 250cc & 350cc GP World Championships on his self-manufactured "H-D Aermacchi" motos

there was soon a Bimota-framed, 4-carbed twin they ran [unsuccessfully] in 500GP
 

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TTTom said:
...at this point they ought to think about going back to a steel trellis... at least they have some expertise there
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you mean in their street bike division? I hear they got a new guy in charge over there.
 
number_6 said:
you mean in their street bike division? I hear they got a new guy in charge over there.
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for things like frame design and engineering it would be all shared resources anyhow. Ducati have the knowledge and experience to tweak the layout and wall thickness and tube diameter to dial in more or less flex in a trellis frame, to make it behave the way they want it to act.

on the spec Pirelli tire the 999R and the 1098R were the sweetest handling highest corner speed superbikes on the track

it would just seem to me to be something to consider, a return to what they know, rather than continue flailing with the aluminum frame
 
I thought they went away from that because essentially every frame was slightly different in setup?
 
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