Ninja H2?

[mitiasbikes]

Kawasaki is doing it for marketing purposes. 200Hp bike for the street sounds insane, especially considering quality of our roads. Now a supercharged 400 single or 650 in a supermoto (touring) platform is what I would buy.

 

[louemc]

Power: It's good to have it and not needed than needing it and not have it.

, Not having it, when the moment comes when moving your ass out of a dangerous space, is the only thing that will save your ass........ Having it..can save your life.

 

[Brown81]

I like it. Although, I think they could have done one more design revision, using a designer who is not a 18 year old Japanese kid.

 

[Smash Allen]

I like it. Although, I think they could have done one more design revision, using a designer who is not a 18 year old Japanese kid.

Y u no gundam?

 

[Papi]

Well the Intermot pix I'm seeing sent by buddies look interesting. I see a few issues for it in the US and some Euro markets, but we will see. I'm not holding my breath yet.


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[Kurosaki]

, Not having it, when the moment comes when moving your ass out of a dangerous space, is the only thing that will save your ass........ Having it..can save your life.

200hp and 300hp is not a safety matter of have/not need, need/not have

 

[HeatXfer]

Found this while looking for something else:

Suzuki B-King

Back in 2001, Suzuki showed a truly ridiculous concept bike at the Tokyo show. Powered by a supercharged Hayabusa engine and with a wealth of high tech gizmos - fingerprint starting, GPS navigation, voice controlled anti theft devices and the like - the B-King had radical styling to go with the overall concept.

 

[busjohn]

200hp and 300hp is not a safety matter of have/not need, need/not have

Some would say the same about your 600cc too.

If the point of the argument is "wasted power for the streets" then that pretty much applies to all bikes.

 

[busjohn]

I think he's pointing out that you're not using all 35hp while parked.

If we are going to talk about people not being able to use all 300HP from a bike, same can be said for a 35HP bike too as all of its power can't be use at all times either specially in Bay Area traffic.

 

[firstbuell]

Found this while looking for something else:

Suzuki B-King

great [impromptu] detective work -
it puts a new perspective on Kaw's 2015 supa-chgd moto

 

[EastBayDave]

You are correct Dave. By the the way. I miss those mines rides we had in the early 2000s and I still remember that really nice ZX12 you had. If I remember correctly. You really didn't want to get rid of that bike. Right?

Hi there; yes we had some wild rides on Mines/Del Puerto for a couple years didn't we? Sorry I can't remember you from that username, remind me.

Yeah a group ride w/all high-horsepower bikes on Mines was a blast. All Busa's & ZX12R's; it was quite the group until many went away (crashed their bikes?) I flat loved my big Ninja; I called it my "giggle-bike" just because of the HP you were riding on. Felt like riding a top-fueler.....LOL Especially after all the mods.

I had it for 10 years; & at the end of that timeframe, it was mostly sitting in the garage as the ZRX is much more comfortable. I wasn't riding it much due to the rearsets/clipon's pain. A friend kept bugging me trying to buy it for several years, & in a weak moment I sold it. I'm still kicking meself for that but it landed in a good home in Galveston, TX. Rarely ridden except to bike shows; even won a couple...(sigh)...

Back to the H-2; as long as it has good rider electronic aids, I think it will be tits man; I think racers are gonna love the racebike. The streetbike? We will have to wait & see. Wish I could afford one....

-ebd

 

[ilikefood]

Power: It's good to have it and not needed than needing it and not have it.

It's not about having it, it's about it being PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to use that power. No one will ever use more than about 150 hp on that bike, except during top-speed, 180+ mph runs in high gears.

The point about a 300 hp bike having more power everywhere is valid, but that's not what the dumb marketing for this bike is about. It's about the magic 300 number, that's why people are salivating over the H2. It's a number that's useful only for spec sheet comparisons, because the vast majority of people who buy this bike (except for top-speed salt flats guys) will never apply anywhere close to 300 hp to the rear tire.

 

[Kurosaki]

Some would say the same about your 600cc too.

If the point of the argument is "wasted power for the streets" then that pretty much applies to all bikes.

So let's stop trying to make "too much for the street" talk since it's been applied to bikes with much less power before.

If we are going to talk about people not being able to use all 300HP from a bike, same can be said for a 35HP bike too as all of its power can't be use at all times either specially in Bay Area traffic.

But ALL bikes? Come on, man. I don't get why you're stuck on this 35hp bike thing. On a low power bike like that with a short geared transmission, you can rip a couple gears at WOT between stoplights all day long. Bay Area TRAFFIC? Not even a meter maid can use all its go cart power in traffic. What does referring to sitting in traffic have to do with anything?

 

[aminalmutha]

It's not about having it, it's about it being PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to use that power.

You're flat out wrong, broseph. I know dudes with bikes that put down close to that and they know dudes who put down well above that. There are actual 500hp bikes running around on the streets. You telling me that with 500hp they are using less than 300 at all times? Lest they wheelie so hard they bump their heads on the moon?

 

[EastBayDave]

.....because the vast majority of people who buy this bike (except for top-speed salt flats guys) will never apply anywhere close to 300 hp to the rear tire.

Likely correct; but let's not forget the drag racers. All over the USA there's a drag strip in almost every town. The zx14r was launched w/the strip in mind & demoed by Ricky Gadson (popular KAW drag racer.)

I think the racer is the real target; KAW wants to see them at every track every week. They will be at Bonneville & El Mirage, & some will be roadraced by those w/the $$$/sponsors.

Think of this: the streetbike is just a de-tuned racebike, not the other way around. Wooopie!

 

[firstbuell]

$$$

 

[EastBayDave]

uh oh, someone's already got the racebike.

Magazine for riders test me bet eh' ?

 

[Sharky]

It's not about having it, it's about it being PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to use that power. No one will ever use more than about 150 hp on that bike, except during top-speed, 180+ mph runs in high gears.

The point about a 300 hp bike having more power everywhere is valid, but that's not what the dumb marketing for this bike is about. It's about the magic 300 number, that's why people are salivating over the H2. It's a number that's useful only for spec sheet comparisons, because the vast majority of people who buy this bike (except for top-speed salt flats guys) will never apply anywhere close to 300 hp to the rear tire.

How many 150hp bikes have you ridden? I have no problem winding out my 150+rwhp bike on public roads without flipping the bike over or having uncontrollable breaks in traction. No rider aids either.

Just because you can't mash on a bike with all that power in 1st gear, doesn't mean you can't use the power. Guys regularly drive turbo busa's/ninjas on the road that make well in excess of 300hp. I do agree, the street variant won't be anywhere near 300 (who knows about the race bike? 300hp shouldn't be too tough with no emissions and high octane fuels).

 

[busjohn]

So let's stop trying to make "too much for the street" talk since it's been applied to bikes with much less power before.




But ALL bikes? Come on, man. I don't get why you're stuck on this 35hp bike thing. On a low power bike like that with a short geared transmission, you can rip a couple gears at WOT between stoplights all day long. Bay Area TRAFFIC? Not even a meter maid can use all its go cart power in traffic. What does referring to sitting in traffic have to do with anything?

That was just example for people that say, you can't use all the power so it's a waste. That can be apply to a 35HP bike too as all of its 35HP can't be use at all times either. Therefore, for the times that it can't be use, it's also a "waste" if going by that logic. And no, depending on the area and time, you cannot "WOT" between stoplights all day long, not even with a 35HP bike.

 

[Kurosaki]

That was just example for people that say, you can't use all the power so it's a waste. That can be apply to a 35HP bike too as all of its 35HP can't be use at all times either. Therefore, for the times that it can't be use, it's also a "waste" if going by that logic. And no, depending on the area and time, you cannot "WOT" between stoplights all day long, not even with a 35HP bike.

The point you're making is so inconsequential and out in left field relative to the discussion about the H2.

I'm done