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Question regarding weaving to warm your tires

Squidly McSmearstain said:
Your bike comes equipped with tire warmers. They are both located on your right clip-on and consist of two controls.

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OP, Unlike cars, the tires are curved so unless you're at high speed and full lean (which they should be warm before attempting that anyway) which actually stresses the tires you're doing nothing. Brakes and throttle are the only real way to warm your tires and believe me. Unless you're going from dead stop to WOT with knee on the ground you'll be absolutely fine just riding it all normal and sedate like. :x

I will admit I'm guilty of tipping the bike when I have fresh tires on occasion but I also know that does nothing for warming them up. On those rare occasions when I'm doing it I'm doing it more to scrub a little of those chemicals off the tires and even that is debatable if it actually does anything. I don't really notice any difference in the feel when I do or don't do that with fresh shoes since either way I still gradually up the pace with new shoes. :dunno
 
once you ride at the track you'll realize it's just ridiculous to say "techniques to warm up tires at 40mph"
 
Weaving to warm the tires only works due to the friction it creates from lateral Gs... on a moto, you're not skidding left and right when you weave and creating that friction. It's dumb and I still see stupid squids doing it at the base of the 9 all the time. It's a technique developed in auto racing. It only works in auto racing :p
 
I've weaved around before, not to warm up my tires right at the beginning of a ride, more just to keep me entertained and to stretch out a little bit.
 
Squidly McSmearstain said:
Your bike comes equipped with tire warmers. They are both located on your right clip-on and consist of two controls.

The rear tire warmer is connected to the end of the clip-on. This control twists backwards. Twist backward to warm your rear tire.

The front tire warmer is a lever (usually silver, but given you ride a GSXR it's probably colored and crafted from billet aluminum and costs more than your gloves or boots). Squeeze this while traveling forward to warm the front tire.

Both controls also have some side effects. The rear tire warmer will also make your bike go VERY FAST. The front tire warmer will make your bike SLOW DOWN.

Large movements of either tire warmer MAY cause problems. Large movements of either tire warmer while the bike is leaned over absolutely will cause problems.

Weaving back and forth to warm your tires doesn't work. Next time, tell the officer you're getting ready for a lane splitting exercise. He'll understand and tell you to have a nice day.
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POTD, well done :applause
 
Ryangsxr600 said:
New to the site, let me know if I am doing anything wrong.

This morning I was pulled over for weaving to warm my tires. No big deal, I did not get a ticket or anything. Cop chews me saying I don't need to warm my tires. Well I disagree. I would rather have my tires warm to both edges. What are your opinions on weaving to warm up your tires?
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Do you by any chance play a super-loud radio too? Just trying to connect threads...

Seriously, you will look like a complete idiot on the street.
 
Friction creates heat, and tires warm once you begin riding. The few pro races I've seen, when the riders get up and take tire warmers off they immediately start weaving. I know street tires warm fast and don't necessarily have to be warm but I would rather be safe.
 
8Lives said:
Do you by any chance play a super-loud radio too? Just trying to connect threads...

Seriously, you will look like a complete idiot on the street.
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Did you argue with the cops too?

From your post, it sounds like you have yourself convinced, and are going to keep doing it. It doesn't make you look like a racer. It doesn't make you look like you know what you are doing. It does make you look like one of those guys at starbucks that looks at other people's tires and thinks they know what they are looking at.

The few pro races I've seen, when the riders get up and take tire warmers off they immediately start weaving.
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I guess you are a street pro.
 
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Ryangsxr600 said:
New to the site, let me know if I am doing anything wrong.

This morning I was pulled over for weaving to warm my tires. No big deal, I did not get a ticket or anything. Cop chews me saying I don't need to warm my tires. Well I disagree. I would rather have my tires warm to both edges. What are your opinions on weaving to warm up your tires?
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The weaving doesn't do the deed, (it has been proven it doesn't).

Your not going to the starting grid, are you? Just ride your bike, and avoid doing stupid moves...If your on the public road..(Ya know the place with speed limits, and traffic and sketchy surfaces..) Just riding your bike, and paying attention...is the hot set-up. :ride

Oh and By-The-Way...What racers do at the track doesn't mean Shit, for a street rider on street tires, used over and over (little matter of heat cycles and tires used for one race).
 
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I weave just to be silly as I ride down the road. I'm certainly not expecting it to help grip or anything.
 
Ryangsxr600 said:
Friction creates heat, and tires warm once you begin riding. The few pro races I've seen, when the riders get up and take tire warmers off they immediately start weaving. I know street tires warm fast and don't necessarily have to be warm but I would rather be safe.
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If you want to weave, then weave, but telling yourself that it helps you be safer is just blowing smoke up your own butt.
 
corndog67 said:
Did you argue with the cops too?

From your post, it sounds like you have yourself convinced, and are going to keep doing it. It doesn't make you look like a racer. It doesn't make you look like you know what you are doing. It does make you look like one of those guys at starbucks that looks at other people's tires and thinks they know what they are looking at.



I guess you are a street pro.
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No, just realized the other 3 pages of information. Thought I was replying to the first answer on thread.
 
Hey guys! Wanted to say thank you forthe information. This is the first forum that actually gave me some damn good answers. Thanks for the help.
 
Ryangsxr600 said:
Friction creates heat, and tires warm once you begin riding. The few pro races I've seen, when the riders get up and take tire warmers off they immediately start weaving. I know street tires warm fast and don't necessarily have to be warm but I would rather be safe.
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This is NOT to warm up the tires; it's to scrub them in a bit. When they first get going on a brand new tire, they do that to rough up the rubber a bit. And when they are coming back from the warmup lap, they are doing it to scrub off the debris that they might have picked up, because they usually don't stick to the racing line on the warmup lap, so they pick up little bits of dirt and rubber that as they are coming to the line they clean off by weaving.

It doesn't do shit to warm the tires. Braking and accelerating do that.
 
DaveT319 said:
This is NOT to warm up the tires; it's to scrub them in a bit. When they first get going on a brand new tire, they do that to rough up the rubber a bit. And when they are coming back from the warmup lap, they are doing it to scrub off the debris that they might have picked up, because they usually don't stick to the racing line on the warmup lap, so they pick up little bits of dirt and rubber that as they are coming to the line they clean off by weaving.

It doesn't do shit to warm the tires. Braking and accelerating do that.
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Very good. Now, the sides of the tire warm With turning. Why is that if it is not the friction?
 
DaveT319 said:
This is NOT to warm up the tires; it's to scrub them in a bit. When they first get going on a brand new tire, they do that to rough up the rubber a bit.
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High-Side said:
First off, Knoche quickly dispatched the old wives' tale that the surface of the tire needs to be scuffed or roughed up to offer grip.
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:rofl


PS, Squidly wins Post of the Day. :thumbup

Squidly McSmearstain said:
The front tire warmer is a lever (usually silver, but given you ride a GSXR it's probably colored and crafted from billet aluminum and costs more than your gloves or boots). Squeeze this while traveling forward to warm the front tire.
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sckego said:
:rofl


PS, Squidly wins Post of the Day. :thumbup
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Try reading with both eyes! :twofinger

High-Side said:
To clear up the issue of how to ride on new tires - First off, Knoche quickly dispatched the old wives' tale that the surface of the tire needs to be scuffed or roughed up to offer grip. "Maybe it's coming from the old days when people were spraying mold release on the tread when the molds were maybe not that precise," Knoche speculates, "and the machinery was not that precise. But nowadays molds are typically coated with Teflon or other surface treatments. The release you put in there (in the sidewall area only, not the tread) is for like baking a cake, you know, so that it fills all the little corners and today that is done more mechanically than by spraying. The sidewall is important because you have all the engraving in the sidewall [with tire size, inflation pressure and certifications] and that you want to look nicely on your tire, so that's why we still spray the mold release there."
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Ryangsxr600 said:
Very good. Now, the sides of the tire warm With turning. Why is that if it is not the friction?
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Just fucking ride the damn thing. Do you really think for a second that you have the capabilities to get everything out of your bike or tire?

Please post photos of your tire. I'd be willing to bet, you don't even use the edges.
 
The only heat that was developed from weaving, was the heat brought down when the OP got pulled over and presented with an award. :laughing
 
mcarb said:
Just fucking ride the damn thing. Do you really think for a second that you have the capabilities to get everything out of your bike or tire?

Please post photos of your tire. I'd be willing to bet, you don't even use the edges.
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