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San Francisco

AdamFiveFive

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Do you live here? Did you live here? Are you a visitor, or work in The City? What's good? What's bad? Any memories from "back in the day"? Anything you just discovered, that you want to share? I didn't want to keep talking about SF in the Tanforan Mall Closing thread.



I grew up in Chinatown. The truth is, my family lived in an apartment which is technically in North Beach. It was a different time. For context, we were really just kids from our own neighborhood, who didn't know much about the world beyond our neighborhood. Children. Cross-culturally ignorant. Wholly unaware of the world, and monumentally naive.

In the days before the internet, word of mouth was literally word of mouth. I heard about a place all the way at the end of 3rd Street. Out by where The SF Cobras have their club house. Back then, the neighborhood was a liquor store, a church, a funeral parlor, and cheap motels.

Mozelle's Kitchen. Allegedly, the go-to spot for soul food. As a Chinese kid from Chinatown, I had no baseline knowledge of what good soul food is suppose to be. I had traveled to several southern states, although nobody there ever said that their food was "soul food" or "southern cooking".

I didn't want to go alone. As I went about my activities of daily living, going to classes, working, I randomly asked people if they've ever had "soul food". I was met with a lot of "side eye" and glaring. Several people told me that I shouldn't go to that neighborhood. It's dangerous. Was I crazy? Eventually, a girl I knew from work said that she was curious also.

We took the bus from Chinatown, for an hour. The 15 Third. The route is the same today, but the sights were different. There was a trailer park across from the Caltrain Station. The ballparks weren't there. From the South of Market, to the Sewage Treatment Plant, it was mostly industrial. The stench was overwhelming. I remembered thinking aloud, "how can people live like this?" I still wonder about that today. Do people just get used to the smell of raw sewage?

Two of us. We must have ordered food for a family. Way more than we could eat. Turkey tail. Oxtail. Fried Chicken. Collard greens. I don't remember it all. There must have also been corn bread, spaghetti, and/or mac-n-cheese. What I do remember - I wasn't impressed. There was nothing wrong with the food. Everything was good. But nothing made me think that I would have to come back.

Odd as it may seem, later in life, I met girl who worked there. Maybe there was still some "ex-employee bitterness". She said Mozelle didn't cook any of the food. She told me that the "secret" was Lawry's seasoning. Yep. MSG went on everything. Not long after that conversation, she put some oxtail in a baking dish, sprinkled on Lawry's, covered it with foil, and put it in the oven for a few hours. There you go. Mozelle's oxtail. Then collard greens, with Lawry's, in a pressure cooker. There you go. Mozelle's greens. Then spaghetti with sauce from a can, and Lawry's. And just like a half a lifetime ago, I wasn't impressed.


Today, Hard Knox Cafe is the go-to for soul food. Soul food by Vietnamese. I don't know if I'm impressed. But it's good. Maybe I am impressed. Good enough, that I've gone back.
 
chinatown must have been an awesome place to grow up.

never lived in the city, but possibly my most memorable experience was working for the marine mammal center. had driven down to monterey to pick up some rescued seals for transport to the marin facility. got lost trying to get from 101 to the GG, and ended up driving along the waterfront. the seals were barking like crazy and the tourists were crowding around my truck trying to see them - blocking my way. it was a shitshow. felt a bit like a one float parade. once i arrived, got bitched out for how long it took me to get there - but kinda have fond memories (and no animals were harmed).
 
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Nice story. I first showed up in SF in the early sixties, eventually moved there in 73, and lived there off an on until 88.

It has changed a lot. Third St has become a commercial enterprise. The Bayview is insanely expensive, as is the Excelsior.

Some things never change.
 
whats your deal

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"DNA lounge". someone referred to it in the other thread. It's still open. Go there. Fullstop.
RC control boats. Too. Still there. Loved it.

Witnessed a shotgun robbery on 3rd street. Chesa? No. this was decades ago. Towers? Anyway

:later
 
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I played roller hockey off 3rd street in a warehouse building converted to a rink when it first opened. Then they built a ball park and bulldozed it for parking. Then they built a hospital complex on top of that parking lot. Rollerbladed around the city on Friday nights and used them to get around until my parents forced me to get a license at 17 because they were tired of driving me to practices downtown. My favorite thing to tell people I lyft'd 6+ years ago was that I remember when Dolores Park was covered in graffiti and you only went there to stab someone. Seems like we're coming full circle...

I won't be moving back, ever. The charm is dead.
 
You know what's fun is to watch Alfred Hitchcocks' "The Birds" in the opening scenes that show SF during that era - 1961 I think.
Everyone is so well behaved and innocent.
My daughter was on a gymnastics team some years ago and one of the moms of another girl on the team was telling me she was born and raised in SF until middle school, then moved to Pleasanton with her folks.
She said when she was living in SF she was always aware of her surroundings while walking or riding MUNI. When she moved to Pleasanton she felt all that fall away. She just assumed being "on watch" was a normal part of life. We're talking maybe 25 years ago when she was a kid there.
 
You know what's fun is to watch Alfred Hitchcocks' "The Birds" in the opening scenes that show SF during that era - 1961 I think.
Everyone is so well behaved and innocent.

You also see a lot of San Francisco in Vertigo
 
I didn't grow up in San Francisco, but I definitely grew up in its shadow. And I lived there from the late 90's until the late teens.

"Sneakers" was always my gold standard for movies that were filmed in San Francisco and represented it accurately.

Until I saw Last Black Man in San Francisco, that is.

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Geneva Towers. The only residential building to feature a holding cell. Once upon a time, The SF Housing Authority had to have it's own police, just for the projects.

Housing projects were dangerous all over The City. Even in Chinatown, there is government housing, and it wasn't safe. Based on what I know, my family would have lived there, if the waiting list for an apartment wasn't 25 years long. As bad as public housing is, there's not enough of it. Sad, that in one of the wealthiest places on earth, the demand for government assistance is so high.

Even today, there are neighborhoods where there is no bank - and residents cash checks at a liquor store. And we still have a huge gap dividing the have nots, and the have just enough to be in debt.

Street level conflicts are still poor vs poor. Sea Cliff kids are not beating up kids from Twin Peaks. Is that the elephant in the room? Violence is strictly reserved for the poor? I don't know. Anti-Asian violence is not new. Kids from The Sunnydale Projects shooting other kids in Hunters Point is not new. Kids from 24th St battling 18th St was happening back in the good old days.
 
You know what's fun is to watch Alfred Hitchcocks' "The Birds" in the opening scenes that show SF during that era - 1961 I think.
Everyone is so well behaved and innocent.

It was a very romantic time for people who had no perspective of what it meant to be a person of color/woman during those times. :wow
 
I didn’t start spending any real amount of time in San Francisco until I started salsa dancing more seriously. It wasn’t all that long ago, but both places are gone now. Every Tuesday night was at Glas Kat while every Thursday night was spent at Cafe Cocomo. I miss the old days when you could literally dance to a live salsa band somewhere in the Bay Area every night of the week.
 
Sudden Fear 1948(?). Jack Palance. Joan crawford

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Born and mostly raised in SF. Wouldn't trade it for anything. Spent a few years in Moss Beach, and Petaluma during some of my Jr High and High School, and man, what a culture shock..

I still live in our family home that we've been in since the early 40's. I know many people on my block and in the hood. It's great.

Learned how to ride motorcycles in SF, and still love the city for riding.

People can talk shit about SF all they want, but I love it here despite all the changes, and a lot is still the same.

Things I miss?
Drag racing at the Great Highway, and Third Street.
The Embarcadero Freeway
Geneva drive in
Doggie Diner
I could go on...

My favorite SF Anthem :teeth
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I like looking at SF. I didn't like living there. I'm not crazy about most cities though. Fun to visit, but the day-to-day can be a drag. As a woman, it's nice to be in a safe city, otherwise I feel limited to having to go out with people, drive everywhere, or do it during the day. I live a little like a vampire (apparently), but I'm without the ability to defend myself like one, so SF isn't a great fit. YMM (will) V.
 
I like looking at SF. I didn't like living there. I'm not crazy about most cities though. Fun to visit, but the day-to-day can be a drag. As a woman, it's nice to be in a safe city, otherwise I feel limited to having to go out with people, drive everywhere, or do it during the day. I live a little like a vampire (apparently), but I'm without the ability to defend myself like one, so SF isn't a great fit. YMM (will) V.


Thanks for your perspective. It certainly enriches the conversation. As a man, I don't view safety from the same light.

Maybe because I'm a guy, I've never thought twice or felt unsafe going somewhere by myself. You've given me something to think about.
 
I was born in SF. I also worked in SF. But I never lived in SF. Lived in San Mateo County most of my life. Also the city of San Mateo.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
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