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Stock Thread 2018

Had some extra cash lying around. Decided to make extra payment to pay down mortgage, instead of investing. Not sure it makes the best financial sense, but having debt is annoying to me.

Not a mistake.
 
A good move, UNLESS you haven't already maxed out your Roth. Money in a Roth not only grows tax free, but is withdrawn tax-free as well.

This. I will be rolling over part of a regular IRA to a ROTH IRA this year. Have to pay tax on it, but the income to me will be tax free till forever or Congress needs more money.
 
On side note this just popped up on my Google news feed. :/
 
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Yeah well, if paying it off makes you feel better that's a good reason. :)

When I finally got my house paid off, it was like a load disappearing. Suddenly I had money to spend, and then medicare popped up and it's been nothing but silk and champagne since. :laughing
 
Yeah well, if paying it off makes you feel better that's a good reason. :)

I posted that more from point of view of me making post here, and that popping up in my feed. Eerie. :laughing
But yeah I kind of agree.
 
Look into backdoor Roth and mega-backdoor Roth (if your company and plan allow it)....

I just discovered this. Don't know about the 'mega' back door but regular backdoor into roth is interesting and for now 100% legal.
 
I just discovered this. Don't know about the 'mega' back door but regular backdoor into roth is interesting and for now 100% legal.

Mega backdoor depends on if your plan/company allows it. Basically, you contribute additional funds to "After-tax 401k", and immediately roll those funds over into ROTH IRA (24 times a year, right after each pay cycle). There won't be any (or minimal) capital gains that you would have tax liability. Then, once in ROTH IRA all gains are tax free.

Regular IRA contribution limits = $5.5k

Total 401k contribution limits = $55k

Potential After Tax contributions = $55k - $18.5 = $36.5k (less any company match)

Don't pay tax if you don't have to on all your gainzs....
 
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Anyone have eyes on blockchain stocks, not crypto. Companies that actually build and/or invest in the blockchain tech?

My buddy and his dad get the Dine's Letter from investor James Dines. He recommends BTL Group (btllf). It's down 50% from its 52 week high.
 
Look into backdoor Roth and mega-backdoor Roth (if your company and plan allow it)....

Mega backdoor depends on if your plan/company allows it. Basically, you contribute additional funds to "After-tax 401k", and immediately roll those funds over into ROTH IRA (24 times a year, right after each pay cycle). There won't be any (or minimal) capital gains that you would have tax liability. Then, once in ROTH IRA all gains are tax free.

Regular IRA contribution limits = $5.5k

Total 401k contribution limits = $55k

Potential After Tax contributions = $55k - $18.5 = $36.5k (less any company match)

Don't pay tax if you don't have to on all your gainzs....

Hmm so basically contribute to IRA and roll over to Roth?

EDIT: NM I was confused. For traditional IRA income limit is on tax deduction.

So if I contribute to traditional IRA, after tax, no deduction, then convert to Roth IRA what is tax consequences?
 
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Anyone have eyes on blockchain stocks, not crypto. Companies that actually build and/or invest in the blockchain tech?

My buddy and his dad get the Dine's Letter from investor James Dines. He recommends BTL Group (btllf). It's down 50% from its 52 week high.

If I was your age and investing for the future, that would be a 5% position. If that. Of course BTL could be a tremendous bargain, at half what it once was, kinda like Bitcoin :laughing. Or that may be the highest it will ever get.
 
Hmm so basically contribute to IRA and roll over to Roth?

EDIT: NM I was confused. For traditional IRA income limit is on tax deduction.

So if I contribute to traditional IRA, after tax, no deduction, then convert to Roth IRA what is tax consequences?

Generally speaking, there are no tax consequences, if your existing traditional IRA balance is $0. However, if you have tax deferred contributions and tax deferred growth in a T-IRA, the IRS requires "proportional" withdraws, which could result in tax implication at the time of rollover. The IRS also views all your IRA accounts, regardless of broker, as one big massive IRA.

So dig into it, understand your own situation and the implications. But yes, you can make non-deductible contributions to T-IRA, convert to ROTH, and have no tax consequence, if you set everything up correctly.
 
Anyone have eyes on blockchain stocks, not crypto. Companies that actually build and/or invest in the blockchain tech?

My buddy and his dad get the Dine's Letter from investor James Dines. He recommends BTL Group (btllf). It's down 50% from its 52 week high.

I had talked about ARKK before.. I believe it fits in that sector.

However with the decline in the crypto market I think you will see either a high death rate or consolidation and not much pure growth.

Even video card companies are seeing price drops as the ASICs (spelling?) start being more commoditized. And not sure you can buy stock in those companies on our exchanges yet.
 
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