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Texas is flooding

AbsolutEnduser said:
I guess it depends on what defines "plenty" from the distance of the armchair, BUT, I encourage everyone to see a graphic of how fast the floods happened.

TLDR I was surprised to see they happened within hours, and in the middle of the night. As for the "plenty", the only quick warning I could see, was let's say "flood watch" on the evening before, Thursday :dunno
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The region and that school have had a long history of floods.

It's not how fast it happened, that is the nature of flash floods, its the fact that floods have happened there plenty of times over the last 100 years. The conditions would have indicated that such a flood was not only possible but likely.
But this river basin also had been prone to flash flooding, given its rugged, limestone bed. It once had been named “one of the three most dangerous regions” in the country for flash flooding. And people here still talked about the 1987 “flood wave” downstream that killed 10 teenagers and injured 33 people.
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Click here to read full article. No one died in Comfort TX.

As heavy rain triggered flash flood warnings along the Guadalupe River in Texas Hill Country early Friday, the small unincorporated town of Comfort had something its neighbors upriver in Kerr County didn’t: wailing sirens urging residents to flee before the water could swallow them.

Comfort had recently updated its disaster alert system, installing a new siren in the volunteer fire department’s headquarters and moving the old one to a low-lying area of town along Cypress Creek, a tributary of the Guadalupe that is prone to flooding. Friday was the first time the new two-siren system had been used outside of tests, providing a last-minute alarm for anyone who hadn’t responded to previous warnings on their cellphones or evacuation announcements from firefighters driving around town.


“People knew that if they heard the siren, they gotta get out,” said Danny Morales, assistant chief of the Comfort Volunteer Fire Department.
 
Climber said:
like there were plenty of warning signs, but nobody applied any common sense
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As I suspected, and as written above, seems like there were no local alerts, ..in fact one was after the waters had risen 🤷‍♂️

But the Kerrville Police Department posted its first evacuation order to social media just after 5 a.m., hours after the warnings from NWS began, and Kerr County and Kerrville posted theirs even later, according to a KXAN investigation.


“Move to higher ground now,” the police department said. “Be safe and move to higher ground,” said the county. The water had risen catastrophically by then.
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It’s tough.

apple.news

The Problem With ‘Move to Higher Ground’ — The Atlantic

Even emergency alerts that reach people can be unclear.
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If you ran a kids camp and that camp has a history of flooding, then it's your responsibility to watch the weather closely and if there is a risk of danger, you take action. Period.

The camp failed. Kids died.
 
Climber said:
If you ran a kids camp and that camp has a history of flooding, then it's your responsibility to watch the weather closely and if there is a risk of danger, you take action. Period.

The camp failed. Kids died.
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Ultimately that is an element. Not the whole slice of the pie, imo, but definitely a thing. Gotta take that whole custody thing seriously and intelligently.
 
I think talk of cloud seeding is being used to distract us from other conversations we should be having. Conversations like this...

PTRAP.
 
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Mike... While applicable in a way.... this is very political.
 
budman said:
Mike... While applicable in a way.... this is very political.
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It sure is. Its also political to deflect blame with conspiracy cloud seeding from China nonsense. That deflections is just more subtle. Shifting narratives is absolutely politically motivated.


Cloud seeding nonsense

“The amount of energy involved in making storms like that is astronomical compared to anything you can do with cloud seeding,” said Bob Rauber, a University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign atmospheric science emeritus professor who has studied the technology. “We’re talking about a very small increase on a natural process at best.”
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This much is true: On the afternoon of July 2, a single-engine plane operated by the El Segundo, California-based start-up Rainmaker flew on a cloud-seeding job over Runge, Texas, more than 100 miles southeast of Kerr County. Over the course of about 20 minutes, it released about 70 grams of silver iodide into a pair of clouds; the mission was followed by a modest drizzle that dropped less than half a centimeter of rain over the parched farms below, Doricko said.
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Carl Sagan nailed it. I'm sad he's gone but glad he didn't have to suffer through this idiocrocy.
 
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Mike95060 said:
It sure is. Its also political to deflect blame with conspiracy cloud seeding from China nonsense. That deflections is just more subtle. Shifting narratives is absolutely politically motivated.
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To be fair you brought that up too. :laughing
 
The funny thing is, if you believe cloud seeding had anything to do with it, you're saying that humans have an insanely powerful impact on the environment, like more than 1,000x what the stinkiest of stoned hairy hippies think. You are now the 10,000x hippie, a new era.

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Why are we even talking about this?
There was utterly zero reason for there to be cloud seeding taking place, given the weather pattern over the last month.

This is totally and utterly purely in in the realm of conspiracy theory with a vanishingly small possibility that it is even partly true.
 
Arroyo Grande had clouds seeded winter of 22/23,
It flooded the creek out to the ocean, trying to fill Lake Lopez.
It filled most of the lakes around.
Seeding clouds is different than atmospheric rivers.
 
Mike95060 said:
Trust me, I wasn't the first. :thumbup
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Yup... I try to allow stuff that is on target but touches into politics.
That is why I did not address the cloud seeding.

The woman in the IG ranting about blue states vs red states was over my state line bro.
 
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