The Official 2012 NFL Thread

[Bowling4Bikes]

lulz.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raid...ckson-as-assistant?blockID=653240&feedID=2539

holy crap that's funny. he's an offensive-minded guy too. the secondary was horrific with Oakland.

was that really the best he could do? damn, I'm guessing he must've turned a lot of people off with his end of the year rant.

 

[elbacalao]

"big step backward by jackson" is the most popular choice: i.e. it's much better to be unemployed than work for the bengals

No Captain Obtuse, everyone (but you) realizes that Head Coach to assistant coach is a step back. Such a move always will be so, even if it was a position on staff of the NY Giants. You know, that team the 9ers couldnt beat at home to make it to the Super Bowl.

 

[postcholo]

No Captain Obtuse, everyone (but you) realizes that Head Coach to assistant coach is a step back. Such a move always will be so, even if it was a position on staff of the NY Giants. You know, that team the 9ers couldnt beat at home to make it to the Super Bowl.

he wasn't a head coach anymore. he was an unemployed ex-football coach.

and save your sass until your team at least has one lombardi, heck i'll even stomach a little lip from you when, and if, the bengals ever manage to get 13 wins in a season (like the niners did last season and have done a few times in their history).

 

[elbacalao]

he wasn't a head coach anymore. he was an unemployed ex-football coach.

and save your sass until your team at least has one lombardi, heck i'll even stomach a little lip from you when, and if, the bengals ever manage to get 13 wins in a season (like the niners did last season and have done a few times in their history).

Any team that made the playoffs last year would have been 13-3 if they got to play St Louis, Seattle and Arizona twice.

 

[Eldritch]

Any team that made the playoffs last year would have been 13-3 if they got to play St Louis, Seattle and Arizona twice.

I think the Seachickens and the Rams will both be more competitive next year.

 

[stigeon]

Any team that made the playoffs last year would have been 13-3 if they got to play St Louis, Seattle and Arizona twice.

please don't blithely drop the "NFC Worst" themed argument while ignoring the fact that we played both SEA and AZ at the end of the year when both teams were ballin' hard. and we played the Lambs when they had nothing to play for but pride and their job security next year - always a dangerous opponent no matter the logo on the helmet.

SF, AZ and SEA are all in the same boat. Defenses that play well home and away and all their Offense needs is some consistent and non-self-destructive QB play to be 10-11 win teams. all three teams still have varying degrees of uncertainty at QB (for the moment).

 

[elbacalao]

I think the Seachickens and the Rams will both be more competitive next year.

This may be true, but they werent very competitive in 2011 and no one but the 9ers had a winning record in that Division. If one has a good team, and clearly the 9ers did this year, it aint so difficult to have a great record when everyone else in your Division sucks or at best is mediocre.

 

[postcholo]

This may be true, but they werent very competitive in 2011 and no one but the 9ers had a winning record in that Division. If one has a good team, and clearly the 9ers did this year, it aint so difficult to have a great record when everyone else in your Division sucks or at best is mediocre.

the niners have won at least 13 games 9 times in their history, bengals 0, niners have 5 super bowl wins, the bengals 0, niners beat the bengals last year, in cincinnati, the niners at least won a playoff game last year, the bengals won 0. so where do you get any ammunition to talk shit?

 

[Marlowe]

please don't blithely drop the "NFC Worst" themed argument while ignoring the fact that we played both SEA and AZ at the end of the year when both teams were ballin' hard. and we played the Lambs when they had nothing to play for but pride and their job security next year - always a dangerous opponent no matter the logo on the helmet.

SF, AZ and SEA are all in the same boat. Defenses that play well home and away and all their Offense needs is some consistent and non-self-destructive QB play to be 10-11 win teams. all three teams still have varying degrees of uncertainty at QB (for the moment).

Sorry, Arizona resident here, who is forced to watch more Cards games than he'd like.

AZ was "ballin' hard" last year? They lost too the fricken Bengals after that.

 

[elbacalao]

the niners have won at least 13 games 9 times in their history, bengals 0, niners have 5 super bowl wins, the bengals 0, niners beat the bengals last year, in cincinnati, the niners at least won a playoff game last year, the bengals won 0. so where do you get any ammunition to talk shit?

There is no doubt that the 9ers have had a much, much, much more storied and successful history as a franchise than the Bengals overall. Mostly due to the enormously successful 80's and 90's. I would never argue against that.

But lets look at the last 10 seasons. The 9er have had just one winning record while becoming one of the worst teams in the NFL. 8 losing seasons, 1 8-8 season and just 1 winning season. Meanwhile, the Bengals, arguably one of the least successful franchises in the NFL historically speaking, in the past 10 seasons have 3 winning seasons, 4 losing seasons and 3 8-8 seasons.

So yes, you can continue to suck your own cock over the success of the 80's and 90's. But since then, the 9ers really havent been any better than the Bengals overall Mr. One Winning Season.

 

[postcholo]

you want to focus on the present, you focus on the present. you want to look at history you look at all of the history.

seriously, you're bragging about 3 winning seasons in a decade?

guess beggars can't be choosers

 

[elbacalao]

you want to focus on the present, you focus on the present. you want to look at history you look at all of the history.

seriously, you're bragging about 3 winning seasons in a decade?

guess beggars can't be choosers

I did both. And yes, compared to your one winning record in ten years, I'll take my three thank you.

Is it the draft yet?!

 

[stigeon]

Sorry, Arizona resident here, who is forced to watch more Cards games than he'd like.

AZ was "ballin' hard" last year? They lost too the fricken Bengals after that.

sorry, not enough context - the last 8 games of the season. well maybe not the VERY last once it was all over. but from week 7-16 they played everyone hard and well.

 

[postcholo]

I did both.

when did you focus on the present? my point being that based on the present, you have nothing to say.

btw, with regards to what started this, if my interpretation was incorrect, then why won't you see the same type of poll regarding other fired head coaches? it's common for fired head coaches to wind up as assistants somewhere else and no one asks whether it's a "step backward"

 

[elbacalao]

when did you focus on the present? my point being that based on the present, you have nothing to say.

btw, with regards to what started this, if my interpretation was incorrect, then why won't you see the same type of poll regarding other fired head coaches? it's common for fired head coaches to wind up as assistants somewhere else and no one asks whether it's a "step backward"

What person, unless he has an agenda such as you do, can intelligently think that going from Head Coach one year to assistant coach in the next is NOT a step backwards. It's FINE that you used the poll as a stab at the Bengals here, it was funny haha, but stop acting like you're stupid enough to believe that people choose the "step backwards" on the poll only because he was going to the Bengals. The dude isnt even a coordinator, so clearly its a step backwards for him personally. It would be regardless of any team that hired him. I happen to think its a good move for the Bengals coaching staff though, as the guy can coach well.

 

[postcholo]

yeah, i guess it's just my agenda that leads me to believe that carson palmer would rather have never played football again than play for the bengals. and my agenda also leads me to believe the bengals are a joke when they are really an illustrious and well respected franchise.

you're the one with the agenda. i don't give a rat's turd about the bengals.

 

[elbacalao]

yeah, i guess it's just my agenda that leads me to believe that carson palmer would rather have never played football again than play for the bengals. and my agenda also leads me to believe the bengals are a joke when they are really an illustrious and well respected franchise.

you're the one with the agenda. i don't give a rat's turd about the bengals.

Thou dost protest too much.

 

[Eldritch]

This may be true, but they werent very competitive in 2011 and no one but the 9ers had a winning record in that Division. If one has a good team, and clearly the 9ers did this year, it aint so difficult to have a great record when everyone else in your Division sucks or at best is mediocre.

Well, they did have a pretty soft schedule, but they played the Giants twice, the Bengals, Steelers, Saints and Ravens and they won them all aside from the Ravens and one of the Giants games. So all the cupcake games they played aside, they were still 4-2 against tough teams playing good football last year.

 

[elbacalao]

Well, they did have a pretty soft schedule, but they played the Giants twice, the Bengals, Steelers, Saints and Ravens and they won them all aside from the Ravens and one of the Giants games. So all the cupcake games they played aside, they were still 4-2 against tough teams playing good football last year.

I'm not denying they were great this year. I tink they went 2-1 against the AFC North. They went into Detroit and beat them. No doubt they had some quality wins, but it still doesnt excuse the fact that they played six games against mediocre to downright shitty teams in their Division. Those six games greatly contributed to 13-3.

 

[postcholo]

Thou dost protest too much.

dude, i dont give a fuck about the bengals, but i do find it mildly amusing getting under your skin