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Toyota to move HQ to Texas

JesasaurusRex said:
Okay, not really sure where you're going with this considering there aren't a whole lot of asians in the united states to begin with. Yes, the majority of them are in the SF bay area. That's about as much as a selling point for me as saying there are a lot of somalis in Minneapolis. I guess that's cool, but i don't really give a f*ck. As far every other ethnic group, as long as you're in a large metro area chances are you'll run into them.

Entertainers don't just tour one city, as much as you'd like to think so.

I donno, do you? Why do you care where Tom Cruise lives?
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I'm not talking about travelling shows. I'm talking about artists who DON'T travel. SF, LA, and NY are full of artists who moved there specifically for the scene and its potential. What this provides is more choices for you, the citizen. Those artists perform or exhibit in the smaller venues that make that city such a diverse and eclectic place to be. And the fact that they live 24/7 in that city makes transforms it into a different place, since everyone gets exposed to their presence and their tastes. Hard to explain, but a band or troupe that tours doesn't put the same type of "mark" on each city they perform in.
 
Reading this thread amused me to no end. I moved last July from the Southbay to Houston and it is one of the smartest things I ever did. I had lived in California all of my life (except for a small stint in NYC when I was an infant) and moved blindly to Houston having never set foot in the state of Texas.

When my old coworkers in California found out that I was moving they sounded just like the majority of the people who have posted in this thread. They kept telling me I was an idiot and that California is the bestest ever and that I am gonna regret it. To this day I do not regret leaving California. The only thing I do miss is all my friends and family which are still back in California since I moved here alone.

Yes, it is true that Texas and California have some differences and I embrace those differences. There would be no point in moving if I was just gonna end up in an identical place again. I am loving the dirt cheap cost of living, how diverse the city of Houston is (WAY more diverse than anywhere in California), exploring a new part of the country which before was just a place on a map, and the change of pace.

I would recommend that everyone try living out of state at least once in their lives, because even if you end up hating the new place you go to you'll end up appreciating where you came from. Personally, I do not see my self ever moving back to California.
 
I do like Houston's epic summer thunderstorms! I don't know about that fucking beltway though, you barely get up to freeway speed before it's time to stop and pay again.
 
byke said:
I do like Houston's epic summer thunderstorms! I don't know about that fucking beltway though, you barely get up to freeway speed before it's time to stop and pay again.
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The thunderstorms and pouring rain when its 90 is something that I still cant get used to.

I did the smart thing and I live in Houston and work in a suburb. 15 mile commute and it takes me less than 20 minutes each way.
 
Yeah, imagine the folks who live and work on opposite sides.

When I was there, I was doing mostly manual labor and was soaked by 9am. So, I didn't really give a shit if half of my beverages spilled all over me, or if I were rained on. It's like riding a dirt bike in the mud, it's fine once you're saturated.
 
byke said:
Yeah, imagine the folks who live and work on opposite sides.
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Traffic here is retarded. I still dont know why so many people still commute from so far. Its not like houses in the city are all that expensive or anything.
 
It's not as black and white as some people appear to make it out to be. They wanted to centralize closer to their manufacturing base and the $40million that Texas offered didn't hurt either.

http://news.yahoo.com/toyota-moving-us-california-texas-182247217.html

Lentz, who became Toyota's first CEO for the North America region in 2013, said Toyota President Akio Toyoda encouraged him to think of ways to make North America more self-reliant. Lentz said he began working on the idea of a combined headquarters last April or May.

The company decided not to locate in California because it was too far from its plants in the Midwest. Kentucky was rejected because Erlanger wasn't big enough, and Ann Arbor was rejected because it was too close to Detroit rivals like General Motors and Ford.
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I've lived in a couple states, and am reasonably well traveled. Moved because I wanted to live here and there are better job opportunities. Great neighborhood, short commute, and a variety of things to do that I don't see anywhere else. Bad side is I live in a house that's half or less than the size I'd choose in another area of the country. It matches my priorities, but I can understand it's not a one size fits all.
 
Gragorin said:
It's not as black and white as some people appear to make it out to be. They wanted to centralize closer to their manufacturing base and the $40million that Texas offered didn't hurt either.
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Sounds black and white to me.

Pull out of NUMMI, and there's no manufacturing in CA. Because it no longer made sense to manufacture in CA.

There's a reason the south is doing most of the auto manufacturing these days.
 
marlowe said:
sounds black and white to me.

Pull out of nummi, and there's no manufacturing in ca. Because it no longer made sense to manufacture in ca.

There's a reason the south is doing most of the auto manufacturing these days.
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nafta?
 
byke said:
This all starts with the false presumption that people only live where it's 'best', from someone else's perspective. Lots of people stay in the state they were raised just because it's what they know and that's where their family is. The range of what people grow to accept is pretty damn wide. Heck, plenty of people live their whole lives in Southern California. :dunno
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or, they can't get the benefits elsewhere that they receive here. They don't call this "santa claus county" for nothing.

People come from all over the US, and even the world, to be "poor" here. Why go to Texas where there's less giveaways and a chance someone will actually implement the 5 Year Rule for the rest of the benefit stack?

If one doesn't care about employment, or being responsible for their own expense, then why not stay in California? It's an easier drive than Hawaii. :p
 
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mlm said:
I've lived in a couple states, and am reasonably well traveled. Moved because I wanted to live here and there are better job opportunities. Great neighborhood, short commute, and a variety of things to do that I don't see anywhere else. Bad side is I live in a house that's half or less than the size I'd choose in another area of the country. It matches my priorities, but I can understand it's not a one size fits all.
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I've bounced around California for about eight years now-IMO, there are not enough areas with neighborhood bars.

How am I supposed to get home from the pub if it ain't walking distance, eh?
 
MrIncredible said:
I've bounced around California for about eight years now-IMO, there are not enough areas with neighborhood bars.

How am I supposed to get home from the pub if it ain't walking distance, eh?
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Funny, in car obsessed, sprawly Phoenix, there's a bar within a 5 minute walk of my house with a Cox business connection and free wireless.

I get so much work done now. And no driving.

:laughing

(That said, I could do that in Berkeley, too, but it's not like I'm missing it here. :)
 
MrIncredible said:
I've bounced around California for about eight years now-IMO, there are not enough areas with neighborhood bars.

How am I supposed to get home from the pub if it ain't walking distance, eh?
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That's just urban sprawl and nothing unique to CA
 
MrIncredible said:
I've bounced around California for about eight years now-IMO, there are not enough areas with neighborhood bars.

How am I supposed to get home from the pub if it ain't walking distance, eh?
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Isn't it what the wife is for? :laughing
 
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