Undercover CHP at protests, locked and loaded?

[mlm]

What the CHP undercovers looked like before being outed.

Article by Noah Berger, the Reuters photographer who took the pic.
http://widerimage.reuters.com/story/detectives-gun-drawn-in-oakland



He did not see the beginning of the altercation. He just took pics as it unfolded.

One person will not see every part of what happened. One will see the beginning where the officers were allegedly provoking people to break windows and then think they were actually "anarchists" and looked the other way. Others will try and stop the anarchists by exposing them. Others will look on when the scuffle begins. Everyone will have witnessed a different part of the situation. What matters is what each of the witnesses saw and WHEN they saw it. The sum of these witnesses testimonies will tell the true story.

The photographer was explaining how his picture was about the cop defending himself on from an out of control crowd.

This image stands out because it has been seen as a detective threatening protesters. However, the frame does not convey the preceding events, which may lead to a more nuanced interpretation. Before the officer brandished the gun, the crowd turned on the detectives. A colleague said that one of the detectives was struck in the head.

 

[Human Ills]

Why is Michael Brown 'the criminal element?'

 

[Elmer Gantry]

The photographer was explaining how his picture was about the cop defending himself on from an out of control crowd.

And what happened BEFORE the crowd turned on the cops? What is the sequence of events?

The photographer did not see everything. Like everybody else, he saw a snippet of what happened.

 

[Tharkûn]

IOWs. there ARE undercover operations.

No shit? Why else would they be out there?

 

[Brokenlink]

After having chunks of concrete, light bulbs, fireworks and glass bottles thrown at me all week, I can tell you that's a bad idea.

These people don't give a fuck. They have their saftey in numbers and as soon as they drop below 100 strong they scatter.

Thanks for doing what you do.

 

[Human Ills]

After having chunks of concrete, light bulbs, fireworks and glass bottles thrown at me all week, I can tell you that's a bad idea.

These people don't give a fuck. They have their saftey in numbers and as soon as they drop below 100 strong they scatter.

A cop is one to talk about safety in numbers.

 

[mlm]

And what happened BEFORE the crowd turned on the cops? What is the sequence of events?

The photographer did not see everything. Like everybody else, he saw a snippet of what happened.

The reporter described a peaceful protest turning and sequence of events as he saw it turn violent. I'll agree that nobody sees everything…except of course for you and Ills

 

[Human Ills]

The reporter described a peaceful protest and sequence of events as he was following this group. I'll agree that nobody sees everything…except of course for you and Ills

Or the morons who take the police story at face value, like the story about the killer ferguson cop suffering an orbital socket fracture, when the reality is that the wimp didn't even have a bruise

 

[Elmer Gantry]

No shit? Why else would they be out there?

Admission of undercover operations.... and all the things related to undercover work....

The use of informants.
Turning protestors into informants.
Installing the more skilled operatives into the movement (not the protest, but the movement)
Provocations for political gain.
"Government Paid Agents"
Cops lying about orbital fracture

Things which people have ignorantly called "tinfoil."

 

[mlm]

Admission of undercover operations.... and all the things related to undercover work....

The use of informants.
Turning protestors into informants.
Installing the more skilled operatives into the movement (not the protest, but the movement)
Provocations for political gain.
"Government Paid Agents"

Things which people have ignorantly called "tinfoil."

Seriously what is your point? Are you suggesting the cops are there to deter the peaceful protestors or the violence from asshats who just go there to cause trouble? Why do you defend the people who start fires and loot businesses?

 

[Reli]

Or the morons who take the police story at face value, like the story about the killer ferguson cop suffering an orbital socket fracture, when the reality is that the wimp didn't even have a bruise

Once again, did an official source actually claim that his orbital socket was fractured? All I can find by googling it is that it was originally posted by some blogger, and then taken as truth.

And the photos DID show swelling.

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

It was an intense experience to be so close to someone wielding a gun in an unpredictable situation. I was shaken afterward and didn’t sleep that night.

this made me laugh . I'm glad we are so secure as a people this statement is true. Thank God I'm an American I've been many places where a statement like this would be a dream.

I wasn't there but the Cop seemed to be simply being defensive in positioning while maintaining positive control of the suspect.

I'm not seeing anything credible implying otherwise
(Obviously only using the photos)

 

[}Dragon{]

let's go back to the future and have some rednecks and outlaw bikers settle these punks' hash.!

Remember the Altamont?

Didn't work out too well.

Give me one Police Equestrian Officer for every 25 protesters, a few water cannons from the UK and when it gets unlawful: Move them in.

 

[Reli]

gotta love all the second guessing LEO tactical experts who aren't actually LEO.

Gotta love the crystal ball saying that a uniformed cop would have incited more violence. As if just because that's happened before that it would always happen.

BTW, 4 of those people in the photograph don't look like "black bloc" to me. Look more like hipster bandwagoners hanging around just so they can say they were there.

 

[Elmer Gantry]

Once again, did an official source actually claim that his orbital socket was fractured? All I can find by googling it is that it was originally posted by some blogger, and then taken as truth.

And the photos DID show swelling.

I doubt you google at all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...cuffle-with-michael-brown-family-friend-says/

The officer who fatally shot an unarmed Ferguson youth suffered a fracture to his eye bone in a scuffle with Michael Brown, according to a family friend.

This was not from a blog. This is from a major newspaper with an unnamed source BEFORE the medical records were released.

How they lie politically is to "leak" something from an unnamed source. News outlets eager to get the scoop will report it without going through an editor or any process of verifying the info.

And to this day, there will be people ignorant enough to repeat the initial lie because that confirms their bias.

 

[mlm]

I doubt you google at all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...cuffle-with-michael-brown-family-friend-says/



This was not from a blog. This is from a major newspaper with an unnamed source BEFORE the medical records were released.

How they lie politically is to "leak" something from an unnamed source. News outlets eager to get the scoop will report it without going through an editor or any process of verifying the info.

And to this day, there will be people ignorant enough to repeat the initial lie because that confirms their bias.

Do you even read the shit you post? The statement you posted was quoted from a "family friend". Are friends of cops are also part of the conspiracy?

No wonder you feel so persecuted Everyone is in on it except YOU.

 

[afm199]

The same "RECRUITERS" with NEW "recruits" engaged in violence. Then, after getting arrested a few times, they will stop violent actions and become "recruiters" themselves.

Also, some of those arrested facing a felony might be turned into informants. Those that get out after getting arrested for something serious should be closely scrutinized.

This is why having undercovers in a protest is bad. They're only catching the new recruits and getting some low level informants giving out ignorant info. while the ones leading it are basking in glory & hailed as the next "Emma Goldman" like Barucha Peller.

Gotchas/ Black bloc is actually all OPD undercover. Thanks, that explains a lot, except why the ones that get arrested are usually from out of town. Probably FBI or CIA, huh?

 

[kevin 714]

Elmer's position is no family friend Probsvky ever said that. That by saying unnamed family friend, they can then say whatever they like.

Clickbait

 

[afm199]

And what happened BEFORE the crowd turned on the cops? What is the sequence of events?

The photographer did not see everything. Like everybody else, he saw a snippet of what happened.

Ahh you mean the undercover cops told the crowd to attack them.

PS: The revolution you so much want may take place. The only thing will be that it won't go down the way you want. The more you get out there and encourage and defend violence, the bigger a target you become.

 

[Reli]

I doubt you google at all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...cuffle-with-michael-brown-family-friend-says/



This was not from a blog. This is from a major newspaper with an unnamed source BEFORE the medical records were released.

How they lie politically is to "leak" something from an unnamed source. News outlets eager to get the scoop will report it without going through an editor or any process of verifying the info.

And to this day, there will be people ignorant enough to repeat the initial lie because that confirms their bias.

Yeah I did google, but thanks anyway, sorry I missed that article.

And "according to a family friend" could be anything. That you think it was a deliberate police leak doesn't make it so. Could just as well have been a right-wing blogger, as my google search seemed to indicate.

Besides, was this orbital socket stuff presented to the grand jury anyway? Doubt it.