kmaggy
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I like my lawn.. to help conserve water I could shower and wash my dishes using my sprinklers
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Will it ever rain again?
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I like my lawn.. to help conserve water I could shower and wash my dishes using my sprinklers
AbsolutEnduser
bike r
You want rain, come get some.
No, U, U bring it in that wicked truck! OMG izn't that truck amazing.
JackTheTripper
Shotline For Mod
There's been a freakin' fire warning issued. IT'S THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY HERE PEOPLE!!!! WTF?!?!?!?!?!
louemc
New member
Interesting read on the Anasazi
But, there is no asking them, only trying to make some sense of the found remains, and how their highly evolved civilization changed them, and how it collapsed.We are left with theories.
AbsolutEnduser
bike r
I posted on barf once that people should spare the air etc blah blah
And I got a 'whatever, I'm just gonna do what I need to do without caring about this.'
just goes to show.
And I got a 'whatever, I'm just gonna do what I need to do without caring about this.'
just goes to show.
Droughts happen and we should be more preppared than we are.
Learn from the Mayans, wgos civilization collapsed because adequate water storage was never developed, And rain was just assumed.
A couple bad years could really fuck up California. They will come.
Learn from the Mayans, wgos civilization collapsed because adequate water storage was never developed, And rain was just assumed.
A couple bad years could really fuck up California. They will come.
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nebulous
New member
but Al Gore said there would be too much rain 
wackyiraqi
Towelhead extraordinaire.
I spent the last three days fishing reservoirs in the low Sierra foothills. All bodies were depressingly low. Fishing in the dam at Amador, the water line was about 20' above our heads. The little boat dock was barely even floating.
Building more water storage won't help much. That water has to be diverted from somewhere. And almost all of the best places to use have already been used. Then there is the whole issue of taking all that oxygen-producing vegetation and turning it into a giant carbon emmitter...
Conservation will have to be the main approach. Watch LA drain the delta and still demand more
Building more water storage won't help much. That water has to be diverted from somewhere. And almost all of the best places to use have already been used. Then there is the whole issue of taking all that oxygen-producing vegetation and turning it into a giant carbon emmitter...
Conservation will have to be the main approach. Watch LA drain the delta and still demand more
Shaggy
Zoinks!!!!
Hate to tell you there, chief, but most of southern California does have natural water sources. 30-40% of it is local ground water. The Colorado River is also a larger supplier than the State Water Project anyway. SWP only makes up a small portion of the water in southern California with only a few small exceptions and that's largely due to farming requirements. You do like to be able to eat food, right? I'd also hate to be the bearer of bad news for you, but even places in northern California are using water taken from hundreds of miles away. Ever hear of the Hetch Hetchy Project? You should look it up. In fact, you should do a lot of reading here...
http://www.water-ed.org/watersources/default.asp
Abacinator
Unholy Blasphemies
louemc
New member
In the Mayan afterlife news, someone wrote...You guys learned nothing from us?
That's some kinda dumbassery right there.
That's some kinda dumbassery right there.
Poxy
New member
Some things to remember about water:
There is same amount of water on earth today as there was a thousand years ago. In a thousand years, there will be the same amount of water as today, providing our atmosphere still exists. Water is neither created nor destroyed. The only thing that happens is that sometimes it goes places it didn't go originally.
When we drink water, or do dishes with it, pee in it or bathe in it, it is returned to the system. Heck, here in Orange County we have the only place in America that returns recycled waste water back into the drinking supply. (treated waste water is returned to the aquifer) Gross? That water in your coffee was once dinosaur piss anyway.
The only real "wasted" water is water used in agriculture and landscaping that evaporates into the atmosphere. It of course falls as rain somewhere else.
So, when you speak of "water shortage" what you really mean is a shortage of water locally. We don't really waste water, we divert it.
There is same amount of water on earth today as there was a thousand years ago. In a thousand years, there will be the same amount of water as today, providing our atmosphere still exists. Water is neither created nor destroyed. The only thing that happens is that sometimes it goes places it didn't go originally.
When we drink water, or do dishes with it, pee in it or bathe in it, it is returned to the system. Heck, here in Orange County we have the only place in America that returns recycled waste water back into the drinking supply. (treated waste water is returned to the aquifer) Gross? That water in your coffee was once dinosaur piss anyway.
The only real "wasted" water is water used in agriculture and landscaping that evaporates into the atmosphere. It of course falls as rain somewhere else.
So, when you speak of "water shortage" what you really mean is a shortage of water locally. We don't really waste water, we divert it.
Water can still be wasted. The closed system is worldwide. But locally it's a finite resource at times. And there are certainly wasteful uses of the water we have stored.
We should treat water as a lot more precious of a resource than we do at times like this
We should treat water as a lot more precious of a resource than we do at times like this
Poxy
New member
Definitely. Water is strange in economics in that it is almost free. Usually, the most important something is, the more expensive it becomes.
Growing rice and citrus in the Central Valley comes to mind as an example of a critical resource being used poorly. If the actual cost of the water were factored into their prices, things would be different.
Water politics is a real eye opener.
Killroy1999
Well-known member
Yup, its climate change.
Poxy
New member
Asphaultnaut
Own the Mess You've Made!
Interesting read on the Anasazi
We are left with theories.
we do know it was wetter, then much drier. Evidence such as seeds and plant types found at various sites and other archaeological proofs are what created the theory as to why they all bailed.
Sure, it could be "Aliens!" or really bad neighbors, but the coincidence between their earliest artifacts being in much wetter times and near the end, much drier makes the theory credible at least.
It's a matter of perspective. Is California "getting drier" or simply returning to "normal" after a century of "wetter than normal" rainfall? It's a strong possibility that the gringos and "manifest destiny" simply arrived at an unusually wet "moment" in geological history.
But any onset of drought, whether completely real, slightly overhyped, self inflicted or otherwise, allows even greater playtime for water politics. decades ago I worked plenty of midwestern towns where the Water Commissioner was essentially the most powerful position in local government-many more signs for campaigns for that position than even Mayors. You don't see people working hard for that position here in the Bubble.
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