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ZX14 or Hayabusa?

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afm199 said:
Guys this poster asked a legit question and he is getting flamed for it. Back off with the shit stirring, those of you who are doing it.
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I disagree. With the presumption that he is genuinely a new M1 holder, 32 years old, clean record etc. he asked a foolish question out of ignorance and has shown a willfull disregard for the direct answers provided in RESPONSE to his inquiry.

"I'm a newb, should I buy an open-class superbike".

"No"

"I don't agree with that answer"

:shocker

How else do you expect the riding community to answer? We've ALL read far too many RIP and rider down threads. This guy is begging to be the next statistic. Those bikes are utterly unsuited to a new rider, he asks and is told exactly that and then chooses to argue!

The problem is the OP, NOT the replies. This guy either wanted to bait into a flamefest or is too hard-headed to take the advice of the very people he (presumably) regarded as knowledgable enough to solicit advice FROM.

You're blaming the messengers.
 
id say get the turbo charged busa :thumbup

i guess youll be alright if you be really really careful. aslong as you you dont get to throttle happy. but i think its gonna way more then you can handle. just get the same bike ima get, the 08 ninja 250r and after about 2months just sell it back and get the busa.

on a side note, isnt the zx14 track only??
 
PorradaVFR said:
I disagree. With the presumption that he is genuinely a new M1 holder, 32 years old, clean record etc. he asked a foolish question out of ignorance and has shown a willfull disregard for the direct answers provided in RESPONSE to his inquiry.
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There is a distinct difference between "that is a stupid idea" and "you are a stupid person". No one has to agree or pat anyone on the back--all we ask is that users not resort to name-calling. It's not really that difficult.
 
msteinberg said:
I am new and do not know your lingo but thanks for the explanation. I physically cannot fit on smaller bikes, and am going to buy either the ZX14 or the Hayabusa. If you don't have anything nice to say, keep it to yourself.

Michael
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Without reading all the funny shit on the thread...

Welcome to the forum. Most the people mean well, and a 200 mph bike for most newbies is a ticket to likely death.

No one one this board like to see any of us get hurt. Take what is said here with some humor, some seriousity.

The first post was a perfect bait...

Come ride with us.
 
BigTim said:
It's all right folks. He has a clean driving record. He's an attorney. He must be able to ride. :rolleyes

He doesn't seem to be too bright with his arguments, so I hope for his clients' sake that he either doesn't do litigation or that he actually does his homework before showing up in court. Unlike here, where he seems to be completely clueless.

BARF, I think I am interested in becoming a bookey for this "event." The over/under will be over/under 5 blocks away from the dealer when he crashes. We can also have bets for the mileage he has when he crashes. You will have the option of using fractional mileage.

What do you think? Who's in?
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Count me in for the under:applause:rofl
 
I want to thank the few individuals who provided constructive feedback to my actual question.

To everyone else -- all I wanted was feedback on two motorcycles and I ended up being badgered with name calling to people betting on my demise. I think that is completely inappropriate and those who did it should be ashamed of themselves. You ride what you want to ride, and I'll ride what I want to ride.

Michael
 
I am a big bore fan. My first bike was the CBR1100XX before the Busa came out and whooped up on it. Now i ride the ZX14. If you are comparing stock against stock the 14 out performes the Busa in every catgory, but if you have tons of money there is plenty more aftermarket technology out there for the Busa becouse its been out longer. Give the 14 time. As for straight line speed stock against stock the 14 clobbers everything out there (sorry 1000 guys). Cornering it is like driving a bus, not as bad as the Busa but i sacrafise a few MPH in the corners for the straight line horse power and commuting comfort.
 
Dont worry about the haters. I know the 14 is not as fast in the corners as lighter bikes, but its all about the rider. I can hang with some, but not most bikes in the corners, but i can beat every one on the strip.
 
BEN-ZX-14 said:
Dont worry about the haters. I know the 14 is not as fast in the corners as lighter bikes, but its all about the rider. I can hang with some, but not most bikes in the corners, but i can beat every one on the strip.
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do you commute on it? if so, how do you like it?
 
Most of my 10k has been comuting and i love it in stock form with some qualifiers on it, but it has seen the track, the drag strip and plenty of twisties. Since i commuting is my priority i willingly sacrifise some things. If i save a few bucks and get a second bike it will be a 1000 for the track.
 
msteinberg said:
I want to thank the few individuals who provided constructive feedback to my actual question.

To everyone else -- all I wanted was feedback on two motorcycles and I ended up being badgered with name calling to people betting on my demise. I think that is completely inappropriate and those who did it should be ashamed of themselves. You ride what you want to ride, and I'll ride what I want to ride.

Michael
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There's a point where it's not a matter of what you want. It's a matter of what you can live through.

As I said before, remember my posts if you end up bleeding on the ground. Motorcycles don't care that you have a great driving record, how long you've been alive, what your history is...they will hurt if you fuck it up, and it's easy to fuck up on a bike as big as that. Since apparently you're obsessed with making one of the worst possible choices for a first bike, good luck. You're going to need it.
 
BEN-ZX-14 said:
Most of my 10k has been comuting and i love it in stock form with some qualifiers on it, but it has seen the track, the drag strip and plenty of twisties. Since i commuting is my priority i willingly sacrifise some things. If i save a few bucks and get a second bike it will be a 1000 for the track.
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How many times have you crashed? Did you ever drop/crash your blackbird?
 
Oh, and as for the 14 or Busa being a one way ticket to the meat locker, that is stupid. If you are inexperianced enough with out enough common sence to relize how dangerous a street bike is you will probably kill yourself on anything you ride. shitty speller sorry.
 
17k on the XX and now 10k on the 14 i have never put a scratch on a street bike. Probably becouse i crash so often on my birt bike.
 
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