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2020 F1 SEASON

The vacuum left when tobacco money was outlawed (except for Ferrari for some reason) had to be filled with something other than Red Bull and Monster... :dunno
 
DReg350 said:
Not seeing the problem here. We made it illegal to spend that money to bribe your kids way into college. Gotta spend it on something. :laughing

F1 has been like that from the start. It's always been a gentleman's sport. IMSA is another venue full of gentlemen racers...
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They ought to have two races for F1 drivers.

The second should be in spec cars like Miatas! :laughing
 
Blankpage said:
Nobody is gonna tune into watch Miatas race even if it’s F1 drivers. Put them in gocarts.
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Even better.

But I think F1 fans would tune in no matter what spec race car was chosen to be honest.

Never happen of course.
 
Johndicezx9 said:
The vacuum left when tobacco money was outlawed (except for Ferrari for some reason) had to be filled with something other than Red Bull and Monster... :dunno
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It's not that the money is outlawed, you can invest all the tobacco cash you want in a team, you just don't get any advertising for it - if I'm remembering correctly.

Marlboro is riding the past association with Ferrari, and they get TONS of cash for it, without getting any visual/outward for it.

Not a whole lot of companies want to just shovel money into a fire pit. I'm sure Philip Morris wants the loss to show on the books so they can reduce their "tax burden."
 
GAJ said:
Even better.

But I think F1 fans would tune in no matter what spec race car was chosen to be honest.

Never happen of course.
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They did that for a while here in the US with the IROC series. That was kinda cool. Early days were all oval, which I'm not a big fan of, but the series attracted solid drivers from many different series.
 
Lucky Jones said:
It's not that the money is outlawed, you can invest all the tobacco cash you want in a team, you just don't get any advertising for it - if I'm remembering correctly.

Marlboro is riding the past association with Ferrari, and they get TONS of cash for it, without getting any visual/outward for it.

Not a whole lot of companies want to just shovel money into a fire pit. I'm sure Philip Morris wants the loss to show on the books so they can reduce their "tax burden."
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Some think it's just more subliminal advertising, not that a tobacco company would do anything like that. :laughing

https://tobaccoatlas.org/2019/03/16/racing-scuderia-ferrari-mission-winnow/

As a kid I remember the cool paint jobs and logos, never once did I associate it with cigarettes, and it certainly didn't foment a desire smoke. I built a model of a John Player Special F1 car, I had no clue JPS was a cigarette.
 
Like the previous race, mostly boring with a few exciting laps.
Perez made a bad decision to come in (or his team did), dropping him from 4th to 6th.

Sucked for Verstappen when his tire shredded, that was surprising and shouldn't have happened.
 
Climber said:
Like the previous race, mostly boring with a few exciting laps.
Perez made a bad decision to come in (or his team did), dropping him from 4th to 6th.

Sucked for Verstappen when his tire shredded, that was surprising and shouldn't have happened.
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Poor Bottas, the one time they chose an alternative strategy was when he was the leader and had to cover Verstappen.

Guy has zero good luck this year.

Ricciardo surviving to make the podium was excellent.

Kvyat getting fourth was surprise and Albon screwing up yet again was not.

Raikkonen must have been tickled that he and his teammate finished in the points ahead of hapless Vettel.
 
I'm surprised that Vettel didn't get a drive through penalty for putting Magnusson off the track, he hit him twice in quick succession on the front. The guy following did a hell of a job not T-boning him.

Bottas hit debris which got stuck under his car and apparently ultimately damaged the underside of this car.

The drivers apparently loved the track for it's layout, though it was obviously too narrow for real passing.
 
Hamilton's always able to do more with less.

Gasly looks good this season. I'd like to see him move into Albon's seat and see what he could do in the RB.

Race was fairly boring. OTOH, the penultimate round for NASCAR was FULL of action!
 
yodaisgod said:
Gasly is not going back to RB. If you were him, would you?
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If I were a racer at the highest level, hell yes you want to be in the #2 car out there. Every racer wants to be on the podium as a very minimum, they want to with races and ultimately every one wants to be the Champion.

You don't do that in the 4/5/6th rated car. Not ever.

I doubt that there is any racer in the field, outside of the 2 Mercedes guys, who wouldn't jump at the chance to have a seat in the RB car.
 
Ok. I see your point there.

However...

Couldn't you say that every driver aspires to be the #1 driver on a team? Gasly is basically that now at AT. He can be that on another team with the right setup...like at AT.
 
Every racer I've ever known intends to be the fastest on the team at the bare minimum, especially on the lower tier teams.

But every racer I've ever known believed that they could be a race winner at the minimum and potentially the Champion. It's part of what drives them and makes them willing to risk their lives racing.

I was never a motorsport racer, but I've been a competitor most of my life. 2nd was never a goal and I wouldn't have done the sport if I was going to be a mid packer.
 
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New saying for whenever a driver just screws up for no apparent reason other than he can't handle the car...

'He Albon-ed it!'

As used in a sentence...'it was odd to see Russell make a mistake like that, but he just simply Albon-ed it there behind the safety car.'
 
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