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2025 F1 Season (spoilers will be discussed)

Interesting incident between Russell and Verstappen at the end.
Max's team had told him to give the position back, I personally think that he was up to his old tricks when just after Russell's nose passed him, he accelerated hard again trying to exploit 'giving the position back' while not really doing so, in the past when he had to give the position back he would do so in a place where he could immediately re-pass the person. Max is an opportunist, at heart, exploiting every single possible advantage, he's always been this way. This time that instinct bit him in the ass.

Interesting statement by the FIA..
Verstappen was enraged at the double hit of not getting the third place back and being asked to surrender fourth too. It was with this backdrop that he made contact with the car of Russell into Turn 5. The FIA document explaining the 10s penalty he received for this refers to both incidents.

READ MORE: ‘I just got crashed into!’ – Russell and Verstappen offer verdicts on dramatic collision in Spain
BARCELONA, SPAIN - JUNE 01: Max Verstappen of the Netherlands gets off the the (1) Oracle Red Bull

“From the radio communications, it was clear that the driver of Car 1 [Verstappen] was asked by his team to ‘give the position back’ to Car 63 [Russell] for what they perceived to be an earlier breach by Car 1 for leaving the track and gaining a lasting advantage (in fact, we had later determined that we would take no further action in relation to that incident).

“The driver of Car 1 was clearly unhappy with his team’s request to give the position back. At the approach to Turn 5, Car 1 significantly reduced its speed thereby appearing to allow Car 63 to overtake.

“However, after Car 63 got ahead of Car 1 at the entry of Turn 5, Car 1 suddenly accelerated and collided with Car 63. The collision was undoubtedly caused by the actions of Car 1. We therefore imposed a 10-second time penalty on Car 1.”
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Comeuppance or not enough penalty?

I'm happy Max was finally told to give a spot back by RB. But it's shitty the stewards announced that Max didn't need to because he and RB won't be giving the spot back in the next incident.

I'm stoked Max was finally penalized for driving like a child. But it's probably not enough penalty. The collision looks far too intentional, especially after seeing the on-board. Rosberg called for a DSQ. I'd rather have that than a 10sec. The onboard:

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RB took a small risk on the strat and it bit them. Max made a driving mistake that cost him the podium. Good.
 
stangmx13 said:
Comeuppance or not enough penalty?

I'm happy Max was finally told to give a spot back by RB. But it's shitty the stewards announced that Max didn't need to because he and RB won't be giving the spot back in the next incident.

I'm stoked Max was finally penalized for driving like a child. But it's probably not enough penalty. The collision looks far too intentional, especially after seeing the on-board. Rosberg called for a DSQ. I'd rather have that than a 10sec. The onboard:

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RB took a small risk on the strat and it bit them. Max made a driving mistake that cost him the podium. Good.
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Max up to his old tricks. Thanks for the video, I think his intention was to pull his old trick of getting his wheels ahead of Russel's car at the apex then he could run Russell off the road with impunity.

My understanding of the race was that when the final PC happened, they brought max in for a final tire change but only had hards which then got cooled down during the SC period and that they had no chance against the softs on the other cars. So, not as much an error on Max's part as a flaw in their strategy with the tire choices they had. I guess he found out how Lewis felt back in 2021...
 
According to Max, it was not "old tricks". He admitted to purposely hitting Russell. What I find "funny" is that after admitting that, Horner came out defending Max (not surprised).

Max should have been DQ'd from the race. Him only receiving a 10 sec penalty did not take him out of the points. He should also have to sit out the next race even though he did not go above his 1 year allotment of penalty points on his license (he is maxed out now for the next race or two). I am afraid of the precedent this will set if there are not more public penalties for this type of action (penalty points on the license is not very public IMHO).
 
Wow, that's a lot of arrogance to admit you did something like that on purpose. It also shows that he 'knows' that he wouldn't get penalized further like would happen to any other driver in the paddock.
 
Max's driving error was running wide into the dirt on the restart. That was significantly impacted by cold Hards - still a driving error.
 
Racinfrk said:
According to Max, it was not "old tricks". He admitted to purposely hitting Russell. What I find "funny" is that after admitting that, Horner came out defending Max (not surprised).

Max should have been DQ'd from the race. Him only receiving a 10 sec penalty did not take him out of the points. He should also have to sit out the next race even though he did not go above his 1 year allotment of penalty points on his license (he is maxed out now for the next race or two). I am afraid of the precedent this will set if there are not more public penalties for this type of action (penalty points on the license is not very public IMHO).
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Where did he admit it was intentional? Got a link?

For once, the Stewards rushed a decision and are getting flak for it. Usually we hate on them for taking so long.

If Max admitted it, Id bet Merc could appeal the penalty as that would be new info.
 
Link to an ESPN article. Just type in "Max Verstappen admits fault in Russell contact at Spain". He admitted it on Instagram (or something like that) this morning.

www.espn.com

Verstappen admits Russell crash 'was not right'

Max Verstappen has admitted his controversial collision with George Russell at the Spanish Grand Prix "was not right" and "shouldn't have happened."
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Admitting fault doesn’t mean he admitted he did it on purpose. I’m not surprised at his “does it matter?” response when asked if it was on purpose.

I don’t read any confirmation that he admitted to purposefully hitting George. No new info there for Merc to appeal.
 
Climber said:
Wow, that's a lot of arrogance to admit you did something like that on purpose. It also shows that he 'knows' that he wouldn't get penalized further like would happen to any other driver in the paddock.
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If he did admit it, he did so to spite his team. He was well pissed at them telling him to give the spot back. Ironically, I don't think the hit to Russell had as much to do with Russell himself, and more to do with Max being angry at his own team.
 
^^^^^
Not sure I would agree as Verstappen and Russell have very colored past with such shenanigans.
 
Maybe...I just see the post race comments as not being towards Russell....they seem pretty grudged.
 
I should rephrase....I don't know if I totally agree. I do agree that Max was pissed (and probably would have done that to just about anybody), but I also think that it being Russell added fuel to the fire.

I saw a post somewhere where it showed the telemetry on both the turn 1 incident and the turn 5. On turn one, it appears that right as Russell was at the apex, Max opened his steering and went full throttle (which tells me he absolutely meant to take the escape road to stay ahead). On the turn 5 incident, it shows Max lift to let Russell by and then go full throttle to cause the issue.

I think others are now starting to play Max's game and Max is getting butt hurt. F1 really needs to look at this and squash it before it becomes a bigger problem where someone might get hurt.
 
I think FIA is in a bad place after letting Max get away with these things for so long. Now, with all of the video proof out there, they'd look like hypocrites to penalize others for playing his game.

Not surprised that Max doesn't like his own moved played against him, he's always been quick to dish it out but first to complain when it's done to him, pretty much like Vettel.

I think we'll see more of this, now that Max's car is no longer superior to the others, the other drivers are tired of him gaining advantages with those moves and they all are capable of duplicating them.

And, yes, there is likely to be a bad incident before the FIA steps in and starts doing what they should have done years ago.
 
Climber said:
I think FIA is in a bad place after letting Max get away with these things for so long. Now, with all of the video proof out there, they'd look like hypocrites to penalize others for playing his game.

Not surprised that Max doesn't like his own moved played against him, he's always been quick to dish it out but first to complain when it's done to him, pretty much like Vettel.

I think we'll see more of this, now that Max's car is no longer superior to the others, the other drivers are tired of him gaining advantages with those moves and they all are capable of duplicating them.

And, yes, there is likely to be a bad incident before the FIA steps in and starts doing what they should have done years ago.
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I also think that others are going to take advantage of Max being at maximum points on his license. If Max gets 1 more point, he would have to sit out a race. So, I feel that Max cannot risk another point and will not "Max" the next couple of races.
 
Oooooooo, I'd love to see someone egg-on Max so that he "Max"s and get's another penalty point. I don't know who I'd rather do it - George or Lando:Popcorn

There's a silly conspiracy theory going around that Max will intentionally get banned so he can race LeMans 24hr
 
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