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AMA NEW SCHEDULE

I thought it was evident that I knew that. And it's a good thing, right? So what does a set of Daytona tires cost, these days? My reference is a bit dated.

What if Dunlop said F.U., you don't sell enough tires? What then? Hoosier builds good oval-speciality tires. And they be American. :thumbup
 
the Daytona slicks are 195/65s, making me believe they are UK tires. so, they might be up to $550 a set. if not, they are probably $450 or less which is about the going rate for dual compound tires from Dunlop USA. i thought there was something in the rulebook about tire prices, essentially AMA/DMG didnt want a spec supplier making ridiculously expensive tires, but i cant find anything now.

i think AMA teams pay full retail for the spec tires for normal races. so $379 for slicks and $369 for DOTs. im sure Dunlop makes more $$ off of selling those tires to club racers and trackday riders than they do selling to the AMA paddock. if Dunlop USA didnt have the "prestige" or being the pro spec tire, theyd prob lose a lot of sales to the other 3 manufactures. so i cant really see them leaving AMA any time soon even w/ the series in its current condition.
 
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stangmx13 said:
the Daytona slicks are 195/65s, making me believe they are UK tires. so, they might be up to $550 a set...... i thought there was something in the rulebook about tire prices, essentially AMA/DMG didnt want a spec supplier making ridiculously expensive tires, but i cant find anything now.
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I couldn't find anything about the costs in the rules, either. Maybe DMG has a secret handshake with Dunlop. The UK N-Tecs are $550. I think the special Daytona tires are really expensive to make. I am guessing a minimum of four sets and more like six for the weekend. With a discount, it still might be a $2.5k to $3.3k weekend in one-track-only tires.
 
7 fronts and 9 rears is the allocation for SBK & DSB. assuming Daytona is UK tires at full price, thats $4500. itd suck if they were even more expensive than that. other rounds paying full retail would be $3000. its shitty that Daytona tires are special, but teams cant reuse tires between rounds anyway. anything ran on track for an event must be purchased at that event. but at least they get to sell their takeoffs. i hear Daytona tires work good around Willow Springs.

in comparison, i ran 1 trackday, 6 practices, and 44 race laps this past weekend and only bought one rear for $260. i cant even imagine spending $3k on tires for one weekend.

Dorna has had the right idea for a long time, tires should be free to competitors. if the tires are spec, the series should provide them since the tire manufacture cant sponsor teams anymore. American RR couldnt support that right now, but it should be a goal of the series.
 
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the tire tack that this thread [alliteration!] has taken is great -
detailed, specific, current, & fully involved

da barf is simply da best, period


Q: are quick-change setups still outlawed? -

IIRC, factory Yamaha used the cost of 1-time usage as their excuse for not running Supaboike
 
depends on what you mean by "quick-change setup". the full endurance QC setups where the sprocket stays on the bike and the wheel kind of slides into place are still illegal IIRC.

however, the kits that FastFrank sells where the axle screws into an attached nut and the caliper hanger is bolted on are legal. the few AMA guys ive talked to about those run that setup all year just cuz tire changes are faster. FastFrank sells his kits for under $1000 for front and rear so the expensive isnt that big of a deal and it isnt 1-time use.
http://shop.fastfrankracing.com
 
no, I was talking the full-on endurance setups, supposedly $20k per bike
 
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itd be sick to see this at Daytona again. but if the cost keeps people off the grid, then i dont want to.

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apparently some comparable stuff is happening to the AUS national championship as well.
- schedule reduced to 3 rounds
- no guaranteed TV for all rounds yet

there are some positives that i see in that article though. the organization is waiving entry fees and providing travel subsidies to teams that qualify. their payouts might not be as high as what we have in AMA, but the subsidies help small teams that cant win. thats pretty awesome in my book.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news...late-schedule-reduction-to-just-three-rounds/
 
stangmx13 said:
itd be sick to see this at Daytona again. but if the cost keeps people off the grid, then i dont want to.
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I am pretty sure a couple of us CRCs could put together a quick release system for less than $10k, let alone $20k. Holy carp, Curt! :laughing

You can make a few changes to the axles. If a manufacturer attached their sprocket to the swingarm, you SHOULD be golden with homologation, until someone who doesn't have it complains. :p

The Aussie thing is kinda sad. Their proportion of bike racing to population use to be very, very high.
 
hey, I only know what an OG remembers:

at Factory level, the special stands, machining, parts, etc. were a ton o'ca$h.....
 
Ah, the golden days of big factory money in the States and particularly at Daytona.
 
$20k prob includes the SBK swingarm and the Marchesini rear that might be required to make the whole setup work.

someone give me access to a machine shop and ill make one for under $500 material cost that works w/ the stock swingarm and wheel.
 
stangmx13 said:
someone give me access to a machine shop and ill make one for under $500 material cost that works w/ the stock swingarm and wheel.
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If you would relocate here in Northern CA, I could promise you access to a machine shop with more capability than you might even need. :teeth
 
Guys, Dunlop UK is not the same as Dunlop USA. Dunlop US (And EU) is owned by Goodyear/ Sumitomo (well, not for long…looks like Sumitomo and Goodyear are parting ways).
 
I still owe you a phone call - hopefully this weekend

clutchslip said:
I couldn't find anything about the costs in the rules, either. Maybe DMG has a secret handshake with Dunlop. The UK N-Tecs are $550. I think the special Daytona tires are really expensive to make. I am guessing a minimum of four sets and more like six for the weekend. With a discount, it still might be a $2.5k to $3.3k weekend in one-track-only tires.
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you are not going to find anything in the rules

that would be stipulated in the contract between AMA and DMG

exclusivity/sponsorship agreement.
 
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Yakoo752 said:
that would be stipulated in the contract between AMA and DMG

exclusivity/sponsorship agreement.
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Kinda knew that. ;)
But, can someone please tell us what teams are paying for the current, (I assume they are still making the VERY special) Daytona tires? I have high hopes for this answer because I know that my barf brethren are sharp, studious, and engaged in all things at the tip-of-the-spear of motorcycling. :thumbup
 
Tire prices are known in AMA, think it is in rule book.
Think it was $420 per set.
 
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