Ratters said:
Sorry Bard, that's a nonsense reading of the second amendment. The militia is mentioned in the justification clause, not in the operative clause. The operative clause states the "The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." It says nothing about having to be in a militia. And the justification clause does not say you have to be in a militia either, simply that well regulated militias are necessary to the security of a free state.
That said, I don't place much stock in the second amendment because I don't place much stock in the government officials who swore an oath to defend it.
I do place stock in the guns I own though.
And as far as having a Tyranical President, he is the least of my worries. I think Mel Gibson put it best in The Patriot that we (paraphrased) Traded one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away.
BTW, our country is pretty fucked, and there not much you, me, or even my guns can do about it. We've grown a nation of people dependent upon government who not only submit their will to it, but mine as well. We have a nation of children coming into the world without values or education and unable to cope with the world let alone raising their own children. On top of that the companies are outsourcing any jobs they might be qualified to do.
Who do we take arms against? How would taking down GW help when we are still taxed to death by govt. at every level? In what way has his tyranny been any worse than the tyranny of our own DOJ on gun owners? How do we fight against a govt. when half the people are on the govt. dole? Who do we shoot when the cancer has spread all around us. There is no fighting this, through guns or the ballot box. Like I said, we are fucked.
If you consider logic, semantic studies, linguistics, etc, to be nonsense, it sure is.
If you consider self-justification over everything else to be God, it sure is.
It all depends on what you consider to be sensible, and not sensible. And how much you take out of context. I've seent he same argument used with half the sentence tossed out entirely, obviously a prime example of self-justification at work.
The rest of your note is a little confusing...not so much in itself, but because it's difficult to follow your meaning. The statement about trusting your guns, among a lot of words essentially saying that they can't do anything anyway, just doesn't follow.
That aside for the moment, I can say based on what I think you're saying I agree with most of it. The country is surely fucked. Is Bush personally solely responsible for that? No. For one thing, the man hasn't the brains to be doing most of the harm he has knowingly and deliberately. he is in many ways simply a figurehead put up front by the powers in his party. The bottom line of all of that is that no one, and no party, that holds giving the wealthy buddies more lucre/instituting a state religion (their own, or whatever they think will control the largest number of voters)/assigning adviser positions on the basis of party affilitaion rather than field expertise has any business in this country. The U.S. has become a different version of what the U.S.S.R. was.
One opf the reasons so many people are "on the dole" is the vanished middle class, the extreme gap between rich and poor --or possibly the shifted three class system, with the new classes being poor, rich, and filthy rich, the spend-like-there's-no-tomorrow government mentality brought about by an insecure addict fanatically trying to make a name for himself in history to make up for his failures everywhere else and the wealthy monsters who figure their money can ssave them from anything and the religious crazies who think Bush implementing what he gets directkly from od to bring about the rapture is a-ok. (I talked to one of the last at the V.A. recently...now I truly beleive the exit polls report of an enormous number of idiots voting for Bush despite not believing in anything he stood for or agreeing with any part fo what he said he wanted to do...but he was going to "save christianity"...)
Guns won't help that one by assassinating one man...but assassination was not part of the amendment either. The only thing that would help would be the people of the country waking up enmass and demanding responsibility from the top. Not being religious fanatic idiots, not saying we can't do anything so why bother, not being all happy about their big tax break and the hell with anything and everyone else.
My P90 better come with a free case of ammo, or I walk.
The main verb there is People, not Militia
